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Any Money In Hay ???

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morningwood

05-29-2006 14:03:20




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Been reading a lot on this site about cutting hay and see that there are a lot of folks who cut a lot of hay part time and for a living. I currently have about 20 acres in apple trees but they are about 30 years old and not producing any fruit so they need to be ripped out.

I have the equipment (55 horse tractor, plow, and disc) to rip the trees out and plant the 20 acres with hay but do not have any haying equipment. Haying equipment comes up very often at auctions in my area so getting equipment would not be an issue. I was not raised on this farm and have no experience farming. Would you recommend cutting / bailing for an amateur like myself??? I do have a friend in Southern Ohio that bales about 100 acres worth of ground so I could learn the tricks of the trade from him if need be. In the area that I live there are allot of horse, sheep and goat farms so I would not think I would have a hard time selling good_quality hay but I would need to research that more also.

Thanks,

Scott

P.S. I realize that this would be weekend work and not a full time job. I am looking for a way to make some money on the side and keep my property within CAUV.

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jswintx

06-15-2006 17:23:41




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:03:20  
Best bet is to call your friend in Ohio and bale with him before you do anything. Not for an hour or two, but the entire field several times. Baling hay is fun until you break down... in the ant bed...110 degrees...at 5:15 p.m...and the dealerships are closed and you have 30 acres to go, oh, and rain is in the forcast for noon the next day. When it breaks and you don't know how to fix it, it is hard, but if it breaks and you are familiar with it, then it's easy and not so frustrating. Experience is the best tool in the hay business. Customers are not hard to find, they will usually find you. And if you can irrigate your field, then you should be able to do lots of cuttings. Buy old equipment first so you do not have so much invested, and do not forget the price of fertilize and chemicals for plants and weeds. And just cause you can bale it, don't forget to have plenty of room store it. Just my two cents.

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K-Stater

05-30-2006 09:17:59




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 Yes if you do it right in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:03:20  
We only put up around 60 acres of hay. We sell most of it to horse farmers. Square brome bales. Get $3.00 a bale. If you take that 20 acres and fertilize it and make it good quality square bales you might do OK. Of course there's the expense of a swather, Baler and rake. We paid $2,000 for our old new holland swather, $1500 for our JD side delivery and only $500 for our JD 214 wire tie square baler. If you look around you can get a good cheap older baler, and a cheap rake and maybe even a cheap swather. I get most of our stuff at auctions. Our equipment is older and cheaper, but it's pretty dependable. I know there's hay equipment out there that's cheaper than mine. Good luck.

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RustyFarmall

05-30-2006 08:04:47




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:03:20  
You will not have much luck ripping out apple trees with a 55 horse tractor. Ripping out trees is a job for a bulldozer, not a farm tractor.



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hay

05-29-2006 14:33:00




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:03:20  
not unless you have lots of acreage, modern equipment paid for, plenty of rain in your area, good grass base, dependable help and many customers. in summary, no it is not easy to make anything at it. too many variable factors. however, keep plugging away at it for the experience and satisfaction of production and mebbe it will pay off someday. good luck.



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Nebraska Cowman

05-29-2006 14:26:12




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:03:20  
You can't put up quality hay on weekends. You can't justify equipment expense for 20 acres. So no, I wouldn't recomend it. But then I am in a bad mood cuz it won't rain.
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old

05-29-2006 18:09:25




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 05-29-2006 14:26:12  
Cowman, we just got about and inch in the last few hours. I'm suree glad I got the hay I had down baled and put up in the barn yesterday. Also glad I didn't cut any more yesterday but sure wish I had cut more when I did do the cutting, but with my bad back I can't spend to much time on a tractor any more

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freddyfarmer

05-29-2006 14:16:46




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:03:20  
I don't know about there, but I was paying over $11.00 a bale for alfalfa. Maybe higher now.



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morningwood

05-29-2006 14:38:47




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to freddyfarmer, 05-29-2006 14:16:46  
Yeah I forgot to add a few things.

My neighbor raises goats and he says that he is paying a 3$ a bale for 1st cutting hay ( basically garbage ) and he says that he has been it as high as 5$ - 8$ for second and third cuttings of alfala / timothy mix.

I would be able to irrigate the hay as the previous owner drilled a well for the orchard and there are lines running out in the field. :-) Also my weekends are 4 days long and my vacation time is pretty generous at my full time job.

My wife would rather but our whole property ( 40 acres ) in CRP so I might take the easy route.

Thanks again,

Scott

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Nat 2

05-30-2006 08:37:02




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:38:47  
Yeah, ripping those trees out... No fun, lots and lots and lots of work...and that's AFTER you pay the dozer operator to root them up for you. You're not going to be able to tip 'em over with a tractor and chain. Besides, that's a good way to get killed.



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2x4

05-29-2006 22:50:49




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to morningwood, 05-29-2006 14:38:47  
your wife is brilliant. Follow her advice to the letter.



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morningwood

05-30-2006 05:08:39




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 Re: Any Money In Hay ??? in reply to 2x4, 05-29-2006 22:50:49  
Thanks everyone for the advise. Looks like I will be calling the extension office within the next few weeks.

Thanks,

Scott



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