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Need help with 71 flex planter

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Dave UP of MI

05-15-2006 11:01:06




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Need help from people that are familar with 71 planters, I just got my units and I am going to setting up a three row planter on a 3-pt tool bar. I DO NOT have "depth bands" or "guage wheels" with this planter. SO my questions are about planting depth.

1. can I set the planting depth with the back press wheels? And the 3-pt on the tractor?

2 Do I need the "Depth Bands" and will this allow me to put the weight of the planter on them

3 Do I need "guage wheels" or can setting depth be done with the press wheel and depth bands?

HELP?????

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Brendon

05-27-2006 04:02:42




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to Dave UP of MI , 05-15-2006 11:01:06  
I have a two row 71 rig and do not have any gauge wheels or depth bands either. Since my ground is fairly level, I have not found this to be a problem. Set your three point to hold the toolbar about 16" off the ground then use the cams on the the planter units to gauge planting depth. The parallel linkage built into the 71 will account for minor variations in toolbar height as you go over uneven ground. That said, gauge wheels would be a nice addition to any toolbar planter. The wider the planter is, the more necessary gauge wheels become to keep the ends of the toolbar at the desired height.

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Christos

05-16-2006 08:07:49




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to Dave UP of MI , 05-15-2006 11:01:06  
Humm, Allow a greenhorn to take a stab at this...you should have some form of response control on your three point. I think using that method, you wouldn"t need depth bands, as the planter would "float" on the surface of the soil.

I would put stablizers on your three-point if you don"t have them already so it will keep the planter steady.

Also, in some cases, at least with the Plow manual I"ve got, there is a reference section within that deals with how to adjust/use the three-point in conjunction with the implement.

Christos

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jhill

05-15-2006 20:43:55




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to Dave UP of MI , 05-15-2006 11:01:06  
My neighbor has a 2 row 3 pt unit. He sets the tool at a consistent height with a stop on the 3 pt quadrant and the adjustrs depth with drive wheels on rear. Don't need depth bands or wheels on toolbar. Plants fine.



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Glen in TX

05-15-2006 17:42:33




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to Dave UP of MI , 05-15-2006 11:01:06  
You need something to hold the tool bar steady, guage wheels, guide cones, bed roller or something especially if planning on running some shanks with furrowers or sweeps also.



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Glen in TX

05-15-2006 17:42:13




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to Dave UP of MI , 05-15-2006 11:01:06  
You need something to hold the tool bar steady, guage wheels, guide cones, bed roller or something especially if planning on running some shanks with furrowers or sweeps also.



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paul

05-15-2006 17:21:58




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to Dave UP of MI , 05-15-2006 11:01:06  
Three row is an odd configuration - would be very hard to cultivate. Jimho, corn planters are best if even number rows. But, do what works for you.

I've never used a 71, but most all 3pt planters I see have some little bit of depth wheels on the 3pt bar to hold the weight of the planter frame. I would not like all the weight on the rows units; they need to flex up & down with the ground.

I would not think you can 'hold' the planter real well with the tractor, as the front wheels go up & down, the 3pt bar will rock a lot, lifting the plnter up, pushing it down into the ground.

Again tho, depends on your exact design & what you wish to accomplish, if you want 50bu food plots you never will harvest, probably doesn't matter much.

--->Paul

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Dave UP of MI

05-15-2006 18:32:02




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to paul, 05-15-2006 17:21:58  
Glen and Paul thanks for your reply, I am actually using these for food plots, however I still do not want to waste any time or money. My soil conditions are good with very few hills I would like to hear from some other flex planter owners



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Dave UP of MI

05-15-2006 11:15:32




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 Re: Need help with 71 flex planter in reply to Dave UP of MI , 05-15-2006 11:01:06  
Sorry forgot to say I will be planting corn.



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