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MN Bob

05-04-2006 07:12:07




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When I got this last year the dealer came out and went around in some grass hay with me since I had never used one before. One thing he said, Always cut clockwise, you cannot cut CCW. No I just went through the operators manual and not one mention of direction or ? So Whats the real deal and reasons? I figure it has to do with the swing, which accounts for the move to the center pivot, but what about the outside edge of the field, the deer have enough.

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RickL

05-05-2006 06:23:18




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to MN Bob, 05-04-2006 07:12:07  
Not familair with this particular machine,but if you talking center pivot you can cut anyway you chose you just have to swing it at the ends. I run a 1460 unit and I cut clockwise or counterclockwise make no difference,unless you do always go in circles in your fields. I don't I cut the ends of then do ther field in lands. I only cut what i can bale and gather in a day. give me a shout if you need help. But in nutshell cut ends off then lay out lands. cutting inside out til they get smaller then end up finish cuttin them outside in.

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Errin OH

05-04-2006 08:30:07




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to MN Bob, 05-04-2006 07:12:07  
Yep, there's that (uncut hay) and turns. You can litterly make a square corner by turning in such a way the outer end is not moving. If you go the other way it will swing out wide and not make corners with out binding (likely breaking) the the pto shaft.

I always cut the outside first (just sweep corners), turn around and go the right way making square corners.



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MN Bob

05-04-2006 18:32:33




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to Errin OH, 05-04-2006 08:30:07  
Errin; Well that goes with the dealer except he pushed to just forget that outside. I was wondering, Could you, without danger to pto, swing it to trail position and cut CCW? I know it would be cutting in the tracks but you would get more than if you just left it. I would still have to watch the binding on the corners but make them tighter than with it in the cut position?



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Errin OH

05-05-2006 05:56:45




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to MN Bob, 05-04-2006 18:32:33  
No, if I am reading it right, I wouldn't do any mowing with it in trail (trailering) position. The PTO's angel at the gear box could lead to premature failure. It should be in line with the gear box to minimize lateral forces. With an angel on it (trailering position) it would add to lateral forces in the gear box and speed up bearing wear in it ($$$$). Snag a rock or good size chunck of wood (fallen tree branch) and you might just split that sucker wide open. Thats why they have a two piece PTO. To keep the PTO shaft in line (cut position) with the gear box on turns. Swing it out (cut position) cut your outer pass, sweep corners and don't worry about a square cut. Turn around and mow the rest. If you perfer, mow the field and go back to do your outter pass last.

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Don-Wi

05-04-2006 20:57:42




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to MN Bob, 05-04-2006 18:32:33  
There shouldn't be any problem getting the outer round with it out wide. We've never had a problem doing it. If you've got a hydra swing on the other hand, you can cut which ever direction you feel. We rented a 14' Hesston a few years ago when we had a LOT of hay to cut, and didn't feel like chasing around w/ out 9' New Idea all day. Worked really good, until the fence post put a hole in the bat.... Ended up buying a new bat for a machine we didn't even own....
Donovan from Wisconsin

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jim87

05-04-2006 08:18:28




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to MN Bob, 05-04-2006 07:12:07  
I believe he means that u have to mow CW, so that the tractor isnt running over uncut hay.



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bshannon

05-04-2006 08:17:04




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to MN Bob, 05-04-2006 07:12:07  
The reason for cutting clockwise is that haybine sticks out on the right side. If you try to go around the field counterclockwise you will be driving your tractor through the standing hay and knocking it all down.



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bshannon

05-04-2006 08:20:36




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 Re: 1219 Haybine in reply to bshannon, 05-04-2006 08:17:04  
One other thing, on the pass closest to the edge of the field, that is cut counterclockwise, after you've opened the field up and and have plenty of room to turn around, or after you finish cutting the field.



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