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What are these worth???

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michael price

04-12-2006 19:28:37




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A friend has the following for sale and I dont want to get ripped. They are all in good enough condition to use just a little rusty and the problems I listed. I live in michigan.

JD 4 row corn planter, 30" and needs a hydrolic cylinder.

8' transport disk needs cylinder and wheel bearings.

case 3 bottom plow.

So what are they worth????




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michael price

04-14-2006 07:29:28




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
You guys got me confused now, This stuff is old, probably from the 60s. I seen a add in a paper for a 4 row jd planter for $125, it has been in this paper for months. A used equipment dealer wanted $750 for a junky JD 2 row corn planter. I gyess it really depends of who wants it.



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kyhayman

04-15-2006 08:16:42




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-14-2006 07:29:28  
Yes, it does. The biggest driver to the price of used farm equipment is the price of diesel fuel. Areas where it is mostly big farms, and full time farms these items will be cheap, they are 'old' and 'obsolete'. In areas with smaller farms, part time farms, and specialty crops they will be sky high. 60's technology is not old there, its still ideal.

Take the analogy of an 8N Ford. For a 2000 acre grain farm, it doesnt have much economical use. Yet, here, with a wealth of small and part time farms, $4000 (Im sure much more than new price) will barely get one. There are a dozen people within an hours drive of me that 'jockey' equipment. They travel into Indiana, Illinois, and Ohio to buy 60's vintage, 'obsolete' equipment and bring it back here to resell. Price of diesel fuel to haul it back sets the price they have to sell it for here where it is in demand.

Our biggest, full time farms only use 4 row planters. There's not much land anywhere here that's level enough for anything else.

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Tim(nj)

04-14-2006 15:16:12




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 2-row planters in reply to michael price, 04-14-2006 07:29:28  
Older 2-row planters are in demand for small-acreage sweet-corn growers, and by guys who like to plant wildlife food plots. Often, an old 4-row 494-A planter will be bought for cheap and have 2 rows cut off and the remainder sold for much more $$. If it is a newer finger-pickup meter or vacuum meter 4-row JD planter, like a 7000, 7200, etc., then it is worth more money because of the accuracy and the plethora of accessories available to make that series super-no-till machines.

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paul

04-14-2006 05:54:08




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
In real farm country, these items are worth scrap price. No one wants.

In a hobby farm, Amish, or small dairy farm area, they are worth $500-3000 each.

It would help to know the model # or features. A 494 planter stripped bare; or a 7000 planter with FHI & monitor & notill with bean meter updates & rebuilt corn meters? Could be $150 for one, $4500 for the other.

Etc.

--->Paul



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kyhayman

04-13-2006 19:31:00




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
Here, its exactly the opposite of what some of the other posts observe. 2 and 3 bottom plows bring $300-$500 and I see 5 bottom like new plows not even bringing iron price (under $100). Discs, same story. I went with a 12' and paid $700, smaller ones upward of $1000. The planter, in the $300 range.



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Easy

04-13-2006 18:02:25




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
I bought a great looking 4 row JD model 70 planter last year for $200? A 10 ft Kewannee disk for 125. My toys aren't real expensive.



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michael price

04-13-2006 07:39:26




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
Well Im not getting a deal thats for sure, probably about scrap steel price. The planter may be a good price if it doesnt need anything else.



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Leroy

04-13-2006 06:43:41




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
That Case plow if it is a clutch lift steel wheel reduceably to 2 bottom could bring several hundred dollars also and Amish pull them depending on bottom size with 5 horses



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Leroy

04-13-2006 06:40:23




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
Those small discs are worth the most of any of the stuff and depending on Make & Model could possibly go to $1,000 depending on blades and location, A 8' would be a 4 horse size in Amish country. 9' could be 5 horse. Are you measuring width of front gangs or rear gangs? rear is standard measure spot. and for it to be rear measure then it should be only 6 blades on a side, front measure then it should be 7 blades on a side unless it is the 9" blade spacing unit

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Matt in the Thumb

04-13-2006 05:35:29




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
Yes, it depends on where you are. I'm about an hour north of Detroit, and around here that plow, if it's a 3pt. would bring around $300. The disc probably wouldn't bring $50, and the planter maybe 300-500 if you find someone who wants it.



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Hugh MacKay

04-13-2006 03:35:02




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
Michael: Mike is about correct. All these old implements from the 50, 60 and 70 are worth scrap price plus the cost of wear parts you don't need to buy to get them in working order. Old equipment, even if it's given to you can often get quite expensive by the time you get it in working order. Sometimes just getting these implements apart to replace damaged parts, is a chalange in itself. Plows, disk harrows and implements that had fertilizer or chemical applicators can be the worst. Remember scrap is only worth roughly $120. per ton depending on where you live. On that one I doubt if MI is a lot different than SW Ontario, in April 2006.

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Michael Soldan

04-12-2006 20:14:50




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 Re: What are these worth??? in reply to michael price, 04-12-2006 19:28:37  
Michael , all of the items are "small" by today's standards on farms, everyone wants 8 and 12 or more row planters, an 8' disc is out of the 60's and likewise the plow is not in demand by those farming large acerages. They all have a value for hobby farmers. I often see plows at farm sales hardly bring a bid if they are small, older plows, if it is all complete $75-150 ,depending on condition, corn planter $0-500 depending on condition, disc $75-150. I'm going by standards/farm sales around me. A neighbour gave me a 10' disc to get rid of it. I bought a four row I-H#56 planter for $375 at a sale. At my neighbours sale he had a three and a four bottom plow with new molboards and points and the auctioneer got a bid of $5 on each...you just never know. The other value is that it may be handy and close and you know the machinery..that's worth something too...good luck from Mike in Exeter Ontario

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