How much disk per horse power ?

Are you wanting to work plowed ground?

I don't understand why folks don't like the packers. Plowed ground is what they were designed for and they just simply work great.

You should be able to handle a 14 or 15' pretty well with your tractor.

Allan

A 8' tandem disk sold today for $600 . A IH 470 - 16' went for $800 and I only paid $300 for this oliver and it's in great shape . I just refuse to pay more than $500 for anything I'm going to use around here to make hay . That's going to change in the near future for one implement though . I've got to get a manure spreader . And the one I have my eye on is $600 . Oh well , so much for standing firm in my convictions . :)

And on the issue of not disking after plowing , from what I've read on here from the old hands at plowing that there's no need if done right , well , I've NEVER plowed in my life so the chances of me teaching me how to do it right in what's left of my life are slim to none I think , hence , the disk , it can serve multiple duties not the least of which is hiding my bad plow jobs ! And it can't hurt can it ? Take care ....Randy

we love the packer, but are you suggesting using the packer in place of the disk? I use the packer after I have disked the livin you know what out of it and then after I have fitted with a field cultivator. Nice picture anyways.

You're not telling me that you actually still disc behind a plow?

Just can't imagine that old method still being used. Last time I saw a disc in plowed ground had to have been about 1951 or 1952.

That's the beauty of a packer. One pass and it is ready to plant. Right behind the plow. That's what they are/were made for.

Allan

You forgot the part about painting the yellow and white lines. You're building a road not a seedbed. :>)

Allan

depends on how big of equipment you have. In your case would not have been a bad idea to either summer fallow or work in the fall ahead of time in order to break up those root clumps. With the newer heavier disk you break up everything very nicely with out having to plow. When I go into sod and chisel or mouldborad plow than I always have a lot more clumps and they just have to rot to get rid of them once you turn them up.

Farming is just like any other occupation; one needs the right tools and needs to choose the right tools depending upon what he is working on.

I use a disc to cut, chop and slice. Like for cornstalks, grain stubble, weeds, etc. Also, I will use it ahead of the plow if there is going to be a problem with the plow plugging or the residue not getting buried; for darned sure in corn stalks.

'Bout the only time I'd use a disc "as a plow" would be in open or 'fairly open' bean ground that has not a lot of trash to start with.

Plowing is a different kettle of fish. I get so tickled at these guys that go out with their 10-bottom plows/60 hp tractors and plow only 4 or 5" deep. Then, they'll follow that plow with a field cultivator or some such thing and drag all that trash right back up to the top again.

I say, if you're going to go to all the trouble of plowing, why not plow? Stick the thing in the ground and turn it in such a way that all the trash is completely at the bottom of the furrow and it is plowed down a substantial amount. That way, it is buried so deep that the second pass implement cannot reach it.

Old hay fields and sod are the toughest crop there is for turning the soil. It is best to leave the plowed soil set and let it "melt" down either by freezing and thawing or by the effects of rain. The more it melts, the easier it is to work on the second pass.

On all fields other than the hay fields, I let the plowed ground set at least a day to dry on top somewhat, then set the teeth on the packer just deep enough for it to "level".

On hay fields that have been plowed, I really like to do it in the fall or at least let it set thru a rain or two in the spring to melt. Then, I set those teeth on the packer just as deep as I can pull it to really break up the clumps. Either way, one pass over plowed ground and it should be ready to plant.

This year, I'm going to take some pictures of the packer and try to show what those silly things will do. I'm of the opinion that they are one of the best farming tools ever invented by man.

We all do it differently and everybody has his own way of doing things. And, this is just my personal opinion. :>)

Allan

Ok, I can see using it on that wheat stuble, but that second picture looks like sod, like is that a picture of Nebraska alfalfa field that IH is sittin' in? So you take that packer with spring tooths over that and it levels it? What about reduceing competition by breaking up the root system? Or are you using pre-emergent herbicies on what crop? I think everybody around here would look at you very funny if you pulled out there with a packer, but if it really works it sure would be a lot less work and I would be all for it.

no I don't even own a plow anymore, I use a Krause 7400 disk to get the job done. I just never knew that the cultimulcher was made to follow the plow, never figured it would handle the trash, I could definitley see it right after the disk, we have a lot of the cultimulchers in my part of the country and the big guys all pull folding cultipackers behind there field cultivators.

There is no trash on plowed ground if it's plowed right. :>)

Allan

Guess I don't understand why ya had to throw that roundhouse. :>(

Allan