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Drum mower options?

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Kari

03-15-2006 09:22:21




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I need to upgrade from the current scycle bar mower I am using (sorry ... trying to use. I spend more time at the welding shop then on the tractor seat). I only make 2000 bales a year, but with a full time job and 2 kids under 2 I need something reliable and cheap.

I've been poking around here and it seems drum mowers get a lot of discussion, but they are not something I've ever seen here in Eastern Canada. Does anyone know what the options are in terms of brands, and who might distribute in Canada.

Thanks for any help,

Kari

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Kari

03-17-2006 12:46:19




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Kari, 03-15-2006 09:22:21  
Must be heavy hay - I am mostly making 'wild' stuff, but will be getting into some cultivated in a couple years.

Does the drum mower clump it up more than a scycle bar would? It is sounding to me like I need to either go with a drum mower and tedder or a moco.



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marty g.

03-16-2006 04:32:01




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Kari, 03-15-2006 09:22:21  
Hello Kari! Where about are you in eastern Canada? I know in Quebec, where I am, Vicon and Fort are the brands you can look for. There is some available in the used market, some Deutz are available as well. We switched to a disc mower from a haybine and I will not go back. A couple years ago in a very wet season, the grass was short and thick, that is where the disc mower was much appreciated.



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barnrat

03-15-2006 16:24:38




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Kari, 03-15-2006 09:22:21  
I talked about it before. I use a Reese drum mower(www.tigercoinc.com/reese.htm). 10ft cut uses 70hp. They make smaller units down to 5ft that use 30hp. You can get a spreader attachment that will spread the windrow into a swath as you mow. They are a tough machine with very low maintenance requirments and a reasonable sticker price. Go to the website and check them out. They should be able to locate a dealer in your area or they can get one to you.

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mike j

03-15-2006 14:58:31




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Kari, 03-15-2006 09:22:21  
Well heres my thoughts kinda along the same lines as chris if you have good straight grass or something that cuts fairly easy &you have a smaller tractor 40 horse or less find a good sickle mower . i was told the same thing about drum mowers and they are nice in that they rarely plug and will cut anything but they require a lot of power for the width of cut compared to a sickle I run a 65" with 30 horse but it is terribly slow i have kinda come to think if you figured about half again the recomended min power it would work real good . good luck mike

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ChrisLSD

03-15-2006 13:14:21




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Kari, 03-15-2006 09:22:21  
a few comments:

when u say in the welding shop too much - what is actually breaking or happening - do u really have to be rewelding it all the time or are you just minor little details like a bent or broken rock guard or one bad sickle section every so often?

i liked the idea of drum mowers as in inexpensive reliable durable replacement for a sickle but they have drawbacks also - they typically won't cut over 6' (i have a 9' sickle) and they tend to leave the material in 2 windrows beside each drum - not aiding drying any....

i think u would be happiest just upgrading to a better sickle type mower - especially if your ahy mowing aren't severe - like down and tangled or real short, wet stoff that is thicker than hair on a dog's back.....

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Roy in UK

03-15-2006 22:58:01




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to ChrisLSD, 03-15-2006 13:14:21  
Yes a drum mower does leave it in rows,(which is academic really if you follow it with a tedder) but disc mower will leave it flat like a sickle mower. Both types will cut wet and tangled crops like a hot knife through butter.



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Hay DR

03-15-2006 18:27:22




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to ChrisLSD, 03-15-2006 13:14:21  
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You can mow any time of the day with a drum mower or a disc mower. When the dew is on the crop in the morning or in the evening that doesn't stop a drum mower. You can not mow with a single action sicklebar mower with dew on the hay. You can start mowing in the morning with a drum mower and you will be finished mowing while you would be waiting for the hay to dry down just so you can mow it with a sicklebar mower. You lose a day's drying time with a sicklebar mower because you have to cut during the major hay curing time of the day.
CCM drum mowers start at $2,300. You can take a T-165 drum mower with a 65" cut and out mow a 7' sickle bar mower. The heavier the hay the greater the difference in the capacity between the 2 mowers.

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Ross

03-15-2006 20:28:05




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Hay DR, 03-15-2006 18:27:22  
HayDr, I'm not doubting you can mow as much with a 65" drum mower as a 7' sickle-but how fast are you driving to do that? Around here a lot of the fields are too rough to go that fast. I will say a disc mower is pretty darn near impossible to stop dew or no dew-I've never even seen a drum mower around here just haybines and disc mowers more and more.



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Ross

03-15-2006 20:27:34




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Hay DR, 03-15-2006 18:27:22  
HayDr, I'm not doubting you can mow as much with a 65" drum mower as a 7' sickle-but how fast are you driving to do that? Around here a lot of the fields are too rough to go that fast. I will say a disc mower is pretty darn near impossible to stop dew or no dew-I've never even seen a drum mower around here just haybines and disc mowers more and more.



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Roy in UK

03-16-2006 05:06:16




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Ross, 03-15-2006 20:27:34  
Something that has not been mentioned, not only will a disc/drum mower cut at a faster forward speed than a sickle mower, it will also cut at a slower forward speed than a sickle mower (eh whats's the point? ) What I mean is if you say,come to a very rough or badly rutted patch in a field you can go as slow as you like, the contra-rotating discs or drums will whizz the crop through and clear itself, wheras with a sickle bar mower ( notice I did not say haybine) if you drop down into a low gear they tend to clog up .

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ken macfarlane

03-16-2006 05:56:53




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Roy in UK, 03-16-2006 05:06:16  
I spent some time trying to find a drum mower around here (eastern canada) and was unsucessful. Could hardly find a plain disc mower either.

Eventually I have found that there are a few disc mowers, almost all are used for pasture clipping, I don't know any used for hay making.

Eastern Canada for the most part is humid and wet in the summer, most people want the added dry down from the conditioner on a haybine. I've found old haybines for 1000$ or so in good shape are available so I've limited my search for drum mowers.

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Kari

03-16-2006 06:41:21




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to ken macfarlane, 03-16-2006 05:56:53  
Good point on the humidity Ken. Currently I am cutting with a scycle bar, raking on the second day and baling on the third. I think to keep it to a 3 day minimum I would need to add a tedding if I went with the drum mower?

What part of the country are you in? All the old timers around here claim the conditioner reduced the quality, but this was likely just an excuse not to try something 'new'. You are right - around here any of the big guys are using nower conditioners.

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Ken Macfarlane

03-17-2006 06:51:14




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Kari, 03-16-2006 06:41:21  
I'm in Fredericton, New Brunswick and if we mow with the haybine in the am, ted in the am of day 2, then rake at 4 pm the 2nd day we can bale if the weather has been perfect.

We had some problems with our conditioning rolls and the unconditioned hay was taking 3 days with 2 teddings.

This is for heavy cuttings of mixed hay.



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Ken Macfarlane

03-17-2006 06:50:29




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 Re: Drum mower options? in reply to Kari, 03-16-2006 06:41:21  
I'm in Fredericton, New Brunswick and if we mow with the haybine in the am, ted in the am of day 2, then rake at 4 pm the 2nd day we can bale if the weather has been perfect.

We had some problems with our conditioning rolls and the unconditioned hay was taking 3 days with 2 teddings.

This is for heavy cuttings of mixed hay.



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