disc mower recoomendation

If you get a used one, don't get one that is very old. They have improved disc mowers in recent years. I would rather have a el cheepo new one that a good brand name used one, assuming you are going to use it carefully.

BTW, I have had Vicon mowers which cut well.

KEH

Rod

RodinNS,
We started selling PZ disc mowers in the late 1970's. We were 3 times the #1 volume for PZ in the USA. Then we went to Lely/Vermeer in 1987 which was the first shaft drive mower. We were 2 time #1 for Lely in the USA. We have sold thousands of new and use disc mowers. We have had to fix every design out there that has been traded into us. We can tell you from experience dealing with every design out there, we will put our HayMAXX mower we make here in the USA up against any mowers made any where in the world. Kuhn does make a good mower but it's yesterday's technology. Kuhn's cutterbar was designed by PZ in the 1960's. Kuhn ran on PZ patents until they ran out in the 1980's.
-Gear drive oil bath cutterbar mowers have a third more moving parts than our shaft drive mowers.
-Gear drive oil bath cutterbar mowers take 20-30% more minimum HP to operate them than HayMAXX shaft drive mowers. -Gear drive oil bath cutterbar mowers are heavier and are not as stable on smaller tractors under 60 HP.
-Gear drive oil bath cutterbar mowers recommend the oil to be changed once a year, The HayMAXX mowers use EP-00 grease that lasts 10+ years
-Gear drive oil bath cutterbar mowers have lubrication problems in the hill country with oil starved bearings.
- HayMAXX mowers use sealed Electric Motor Quality bearings and the EP-00 grease has only to lubricate the gears. You can run a HayMaxx disc mower straight up and down all day long. Try that with a Oil bath mower and it will lock up in a short time period.
-Each cutting head has it's own gearbox with everything sealed inside that gearbox. The oil bath mowers cutting heads all run in the same reservoir of oil. Kuhn, Vicon,Krone all have magnates in the cutterbar to help clean and catch metal parts floating around in that reservoir of oil. If a bearing goes out it could damage the entire cutterbar in the oil bath style cutterbars.
-Our HayMAXX disc mowers can be used on smaller more fuel efficient tractors that compact the ground less.

MOW with MAXX! HayMAXX disc mowers are made in the USA!

I would also be curious to know why your mowers demand 20-30% less power? That's a large figure. As to the Kuhn/Zweegers relationship; I would have thought it exactly the opposite. I was under the impression that Kuhn was the first. Regardless, they outperformed Zweegers.

As a general rule, I prefer to get my hay gear from Europe. Rake is a Kuhn, baler is a Claas. From my viewpoint, there is much to be learned on this side of the pond with regard to building for high capacity and a high service factor. I've got a yard littered with North American relics that are too costly to keep running. A NewHolland 254 tedder/rake being prominent among them. To each their own I guess.

Rod

"HayMAXX mowers use EP-00 grease that lasts 10+ years"

Mine uses a EP 0 grease in the cutter bar also but mine has to be checked or changed about every 1000 acres which is like once a year for me.

I've had my disc mower now for 16 years and it has been a good machine. The NI has no belts or chains just a the main gear box and the cutter bar.

I have had to replace the hex shaft over the years as it wears where it runs through the gears and greats too much backlash. The newer models have more contact area to solve this problem.

Most disc mowers all do a good job but durability and down time can affect your choice. I can only give you pricing as to the lines we sell. All New

CCM-T185 Drum mower- 75" cut - $2,800
HayMAXX Dis mowers
CCM-205 disc mower- 81" cut- 32 HP- $ 4,600
CCM-240 disc mower- 94" cut- 40 HP- $ 4,900
CCM-280 disc mower- 110" cut- 45 HP- $5,300

* Shaft design first patented by the Dutch company Lely� in the 1980's.
* Hex Shaft design has 1/3 less moving parts and requires 20% less PTO HP to operate than a conventional oil bath style disc mowers
* Spring Steel hex drive shaft that acts as a shock absorber
* Cutting units are grease filled for long life and low maintenance, elevated operation all day without starving the cutterbar for lubrication
* Individual cutting heads require less down time to repair.
* Safety lock in transport positionHeavy duty one piece curtain for safety and extended life
* Unique Heavy duty blade disc with a simple, safe & cost effective design* Light weight design for use on smaller & more fuel efficient tractors
* Powder coated paint for long life* Replaceable skid shoes
* Safety release avoids damage from objects* 4 belt design for long belt life
* CAT 1 & 2 hitch available on all models