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Round Baler suggestion for Horses

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Jim in WV

03-06-2006 22:54:46




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Looking for opinions on best make - model round baler to use for horse feeding. I see some mention of soft center balers in sales literature is preferred by horses but beyond that no technical or additional data. Any do or don't ideas? Size of bale not important, have 30 rolling to steep acres of hay to feed up to 10 horses. Thanks, Jim




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joe e-tx

03-08-2006 18:01:55




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
for last 10 years i have baled with a mf1560.and last three with a 605 sj vermeer. baling costal,so hard a center some customers had to get new hay speares (small 2 inch speers). horses as well as cows eat it from top to bottom and clean it all up.all hay storeded under hay barn and stays round and solid throught winter time here in texas. one customer made a feeder with old satalite dish to cover to hay to keep rain off.
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Joe(TX)

03-11-2006 19:58:49




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to joe e-tx, 03-08-2006 18:01:55  
Joe
Tell them they don't need a smaller spear. Just pisk it up with the spaer closer to the edge.



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nastyhayman

03-08-2006 08:55:53




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
Hard-core? Soft-core? Am I in the right forum???



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kyhayman

03-07-2006 17:50:17




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
I sell to a lot of horse people. Baling a 4x4 tight, hard core bale with a NH 650. Most of the folks here feeding horses like the tighter bale as they dont mess in it so much and make a bed.



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JMS/MN

03-07-2006 12:10:30




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
Soft core balers were made to let you bale hay that is a bit wet- center breathes better than a hard core. Around here, soft core has the advantage on first cutting, more of a rainy season.



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Luke S

03-07-2006 06:15:07




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
I run a Hesston 5500 which makes a 5x5 bale that weighs about 1,100 lbs. It is old, but it does a good job. Needs about 50-60hp to pull but I used to do it with 42. Only gave $2200 for it three years ago and it had all new bearings and hoses on it. It has never let me down. I use the plastic bale sleeves to cover my bales, I sleeve yhem and put them end to end and that works well for me.



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hayray

03-07-2006 05:26:43




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
Jim, I use a New Holland BR 730, it is a 4 x 4 bale. I sell about 1500 of those a year to horse owners and feed my own horses, tight core or loose core does not matter. Make sure to bale them dry, alot of people round bale with higher moisture than they would square bale and the bales cure dusty - you could get heaves and other upper respiratory problems more easily with horses than cattle, so don't be sloppy and stupid when you bale your hay and cover the bales.

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farmallbee

03-08-2006 02:53:41




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to hayray, 03-07-2006 05:26:43  
how do you like the 730-I have a 630 and have thought about upgrading to a newer model



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hayray

03-08-2006 03:42:52




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to farmallbee, 03-08-2006 02:53:41  
Needs a wider pick-up and the wind guard gets jammed up in the rollers once in a great while when I am really hammering it. I am trying to put some gathering wheels on it but am having a real hard time adapting them on, New Holland has no wheel kit for these balers. The Hesston balers come with a nifty set up.



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Joe(TX)

03-07-2006 05:11:21




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
I use a MF 1440 which is the same as a Vermeer 504G. It is a tight core baler. The earlier balers were soft core and do not roll as tight a bale. The tight core bales discourage the animals from eating the center first. My horses have voiced no preferance to this point. It really does not matter.
As far as storing hay, I have found that there is less spoilage if I put the bales in contact tightly end to end in a long cylinder. I recently pulled some bales that I have had for 3 years and the ends looked like the day they were baled. If they are not ightly together they will hold the water however. Do not let the round sides touch, that is where the water that is shed goes.

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Joe(TX)

03-07-2006 05:10:11




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
I use a MF 1440 which is the same as a Vermeer 504G. It is a tight core baler. The earlier balers were soft core and do not roll as tight a bale. The tight core bales discourage the animals from eating the center first. My horses have voiced no preferance to this point. It really does not matter.
As far as storing hay, I have found that there is less spoilage if I put the bales in contact tightly end to end in a long cylinder. I recently pulled some bales that I have had for 3 years and the ends looked like the day they were baled. If they are not ightly together they will hold the water however. Do not let the round sides touch, that is where the water that is shed goes.

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Joe(TX)

03-07-2006 05:08:21




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
I use a MF 1440 which is the same as a Vermeer 504G. It is a tight core baler. The earlier balers were soft core and do not roll as tight a bale. The tight core bales discourage the animals from eating the center first. My horses have voiced no preferance to this point. It really does not matter.
As far as storing hay, I have found that there is less spoilage if I put the bales in contact tightly end to end in a long cylinder. I recently pulled some bales that I have had for 3 years and the ends looked like the day they were baled. If they are not ightly together they will hold the water however. Do not let the round sides touch, that is where the water that is shed goes.

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JD9295

03-06-2006 23:00:23




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 Re: Round Baler suggestion for Horses in reply to Jim in WV, 03-06-2006 22:54:46  
Jim, Ive fed rounds to the our horses and mules for years. It really doesnt matter on the soft center. Actually never seen a soft center bale, really dont know how it can be.
But the biggest thing with feeding them to horses is NOT to have the bales touching each other when you store them unless its inside. Thats where they rot and breakdown at first and they wont eat it. I leave 1ft between all my bales for the horses. Also get a good bale feeder with a solid ring on bottom, somehow they manage to have it spread everwhere if you dont.
As far as the baler, I use a hesston 5800, it makes a good tight bale and you can pick them up cheaper than a new holland, which is the other choice if the price is right.
Just remember, dont let the bales touch and youll get more out of them over the winter

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