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planting soybeans with grain drill

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Bill from wisc

03-04-2006 12:58:42




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In the past I have had fair results planting soybeans with a older Ih model 10 single disc graindrill at two bushels to the acre and having to lighlty drag the soil to cover all the beans. Now at over 33.00 for 50 pounds of roundup ready beans I need to do a better planting job. Before I spend alot of moeny on a newer drill, I wanted to know what alot of you guys do.? I own a 7000 jd planter but always had better luck using the drill method with roundup beans. Thanks

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tator

03-05-2006 17:11:11




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Bill from wisc, 03-04-2006 12:58:42  
we plant over 300 acres every year with and old 15 ft red box crustbuster drill. we evan notill with it and have had good luck. however with the price of seed beans i m trying to find a 6 row 30 inch planter for beans. i believe i can drop my population and get better coverage when spraying. as a custom applicator i have seen a problem with coverage in late sprayed beans. im going to block every other hole this year to plant in 15 inch rows unless i can find a planter.

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JMS/MN

03-05-2006 11:09:13




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Bill from wisc, 03-04-2006 12:58:42  
Drill gives uneven seeding depth compared to the 7000 planter. Use Kinze or JD meters to get accurate seed count and save seed. No need to reset using beans of different seeds per pound. Can find used meters for $40-70 per unit, new ones about $125.



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super99

03-05-2006 05:26:06




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Bill from wisc, 03-04-2006 12:58:42  
I'm with Roger from Ia, Slide drawbar over and double plant rows. Takes twice as long, don't need 2 pieces of equipment.Trouble I have is planter drifting on sidehills, end up with 2 rows side by side. Might try planting in 2 directions to make checkerboard squares. Any one ever done that??? Chris



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RickL

03-05-2006 18:16:50




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to super99, 03-05-2006 05:26:06  
yes used to do it all time plant one way then went opposite direction second time work real nice. Don't do it now as I run Marliss drill and no till them just plant around same population as with planter. Yield about same either way and since Ido hay and small grains no corn anymore and wouldreally like to take soybeans out of rotation also as it hard to make profit on them. they get notilled into the rye stubble since that is most profit crop for me.

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RickL

03-05-2006 18:16:38




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to super99, 03-05-2006 05:26:06  
yes used to do it all time plant one way then went opposite direction second time work real nice. Don't do it now as I run Marliss drill and no till them just plant around same population as with planter. Yield about same either way and since Ido hay and small grains no corn anymore and wouldreally like to take soybeans out of rotation also as it hard to make profit on them. they get notilled into the rye stubble since that is most profit crop for me.

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DaleK

03-04-2006 18:30:11




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Bill from wisc, 03-04-2006 12:58:42  
We plant 300-350 acres with a JD 8200 21 run drill on a 2130, we cover 2 of 3 runs and plant on 18" with a packer behind, get really good results.



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J. Schwiebert

03-04-2006 16:03:38




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Bill from wisc, 03-04-2006 12:58:42  
Does you soil conversation service rent no till drills? Also have you thought of plugging every other opening to have about 15 inch rows. Around here 90% + of the beans are sown with drill and 90% of those are with no till drills. Questions?



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IaGary

03-04-2006 15:22:12




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Bill from wisc, 03-04-2006 12:58:42  
Used to drill beans but because of seed cost and aging drill I went to a Kinze planter with pusher units between the 36" rows. Saves a lot in seed costs. Because of placement I can plant at 160k instead of 200k with the drill.
Yields are just as good or better but not double.
I will stick with the 18 inch rows and the planter units.
Also do my own spraying and can stay between the rows pretty good to save running over the beans.
My two cents.

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Roger in Iowa

03-04-2006 14:30:17




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Bill from wisc, 03-04-2006 12:58:42  
I too used a grain drill, but with only drag chains and no packer wheels. Got very uneven stands.

I now use my JD 7000 planter, only 4 row, on 38" centers, but double plant. I offset the drawbar on the 3020. I plant one way and turn around and plant the other way. Ends up with 19" rows. Yield was about double over the grain drill, but of course, different years. Things change.

I will continue to do it this way. I only have 25 acres so your situation may be different.

Roger in Iowa

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Bill from wisc

03-06-2006 11:41:19




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 Re: planting soybeans with grain drill in reply to Roger in Iowa, 03-04-2006 14:30:17  
Roger, How many inches did you offset the drawbar pulling your 7000 planter? My planter is set at 38 inch rows also. When I bought the planter I was given a set of bean cups. How much better are the meters compared to the bean cups?? Does anybody have a good used set? Thanks Bill



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