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varmitt

02-27-2006 05:07:47




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good morning all i searched the archives but couldnt get much help going to a consignment auction this weekend and looking at 3 balers jd510, ih2400, and vermeer 605c which would be the better buy i dont bale alot but would like my own baler of course price and parts are an issue thanks




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Luke S

02-28-2006 15:07:01




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
I have a Hesston 5500 that I bought a few years ago for $2200 that had just had all new bearings and hoses put on it the season before I got it. Have baled with it for three years without a hiccup. I'd recommend it to anyone. Had a guy offer me $3500 for it last week, but it is just to reliable to get rid of.



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retired farmer

02-27-2006 21:41:50




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
Stay away from John Deere. I almost bought one once at an auction. Called the dealer right quick like to see what bottom belt roller would cost. Over twelve hundred dollars. Didn't buy it. Went for about $8,500. Went next door to the machinery dealer and bought a Hesston 5580 that had new bearings and new belts and looked like new for $5,000. Worked well, never made a bad bale.



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txgrn

02-28-2006 18:13:26




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 Re: round balers in reply to retired farmer, 02-27-2006 21:41:50  
Well farmer, gotta disagree with you. Just got out from under my 5580 "Rounder" last year and tickled to death. Currently have a late '80's JD 530 with OEM 3 ply diamond belts and they are in super shape. Bales 3x the quality the Hesston did; faster, faster to start, tighter, and better shape, and only paid 2x for it over the price of the Hesston. But once I factored the new belts out that the Hesston required, it only cost me $500. Would gladly pay that for the difference in performance and quality.

Mark

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Andrew from KY

02-27-2006 17:52:45




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
A friend that buys about 500 rolls from us a year also rolls about as many with a IH roller, don't remember if it is a 2400 or a 241 but I think that they are very similar. He has had very good luck with it, he's owned it for about fifteen or twenty years I guess. My girlfriend's brother rolls with a 510, but I don't seem too impressed with it. It works, but I don't think the bales are as nice as what comes out of other machines of the same vintage. Can't help you with the Vermeer.

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txgrn

02-27-2006 16:46:31




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
Reports around here in Deere country are not good for the 510; 530 up yes (have one). Not many Vermeer's but no bad vibes. Never see anything but green and yellow.

Mark



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txgrn

02-27-2006 16:46:20




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
Reports around here in Deere country are not good for the 510; 530 up yes (have one). Not many Vermeer's but no bad vibes. Never see anything but green and yellow.

Mark



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Fern(Mi)

02-27-2006 14:35:35




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
I can't speak for the other brands as all I have personally ever known and used are our Vermeer�s, an old 605f and the newer 454 haylage baler. All I know is other than a couple serious breakdowns (605f ) over all these many years each of them came to the farm new. They�ve generally kept right on going when the neighbor�s had krapped out. Our 605F is still using the same old belts. One thing sure, we�ve never had to have anyone help us out. For what its worth.
Fernan

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caseyc

02-27-2006 11:22:28




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
well i can't really speak from experiance due that i've never owned any of those models but i've heard alot of bad about JD's 510. don't know about the vermeer but a close friend has a IH 2400 and has had it for close to 15 years now. every year he puts out about 75-100 rounds with it and has had minimal if any problems other than maintanence. he is a evening/weekend warrior so time does matter to him. i know he likes it.

casey in SD

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the tractor vet

02-27-2006 11:03:56




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
well my self from working on tractors and equipment i have found that the best round baler out there is a Krone fewer moving parts close chamber soft center and they last . My best friends have them and i sold them to them and they just love the krone it is a baler that you take to the field and make hay not pull under the shade tree fixen it when ya should be balen . Vernon's 125 krone has had only one breakdown in the fifteen years that he has had it and a weld broke on the main drive sproke . Eugens we had to replace one spring on the twine tenshion last year . I believe in the K.I.S.S enginering less moving parts no fancy eletroinics and no big long chain or belts . Vernon was going to buy a brand new New Hollad but it was having trouble maken silage bales so i put the same size krone in the field with the new holland and the krone blew the New Holland away but like i say this is what i prefer they all will bale but keep in mind that them belts strech and break and New Holland chains wear out and cost big bucks to replace.

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wolfman

02-27-2006 19:52:01




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 Re: round balers in reply to the tractor vet, 02-27-2006 11:03:56  
Agree with the vet. Krone and M&W are the slickest design & will bale anything. I've baled light, short third cutting with an M&W that you'd think could never be rolled. Very tight outer shell; hold the round shape; very little touches the ground.



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Hay DR

02-27-2006 07:53:39




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
The balers mentioned are closed throat balers and their value is $500-1,000. You have to asses your situation. Do you have the time & patience to learn how to use one of these closed throat balers? They will not bale but in ideal situations. If you are thinking you can use one of these balers after work it's not happening unless you live in a arid climate. You likely would be better purchasing a little more technology.
You can purchase later model Vermeer, New Holland, Gehl & Hesston balers in the $2,500-4,000 range that will make you a good baler.

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R. John Johnson

02-27-2006 07:16:53




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 Re: round balers in reply to varmitt, 02-27-2006 05:07:47  
I don't know about the IH, but stay away from the JD 510 and the Vermeer 605C. I THINK the 510 and KNOW the vermeer you list are closed throat balers. That is, they use a pair of closely spaced steel rollers behind the pickup to compress the hay as it enters the baler. As it turned out these rollers work only when the hay's condition is perfect. Anything less (or a small forgein object in the windrow) and it will plug at the rollers. You get to spend the next 15 minutes to half hour tearing the plug out by hand only to have it repeat again shortly thereafter. If you want an old Vermeer get nothing older that a F model. They are a much superior model with an open throat(no closely spaced rollers) The old NH chain type balers work well, but the chains can be expensive to replace. I think they don't make as nice a bale as the Vermeers, but if you are just putting up hay for your own use, the livestock will not complain about the shape of the bale. Hesston made some good balers, but I am not farmiliar with them, and someone else will have to advise you on them.

My two cents

John

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