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WyoDave

02-11-2006 18:10:05

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All this arguing about haying is making me wonder if this winter is getting everyone a little too worked up about haying. Just remember it goes like this.
Start with something like this
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Than use these
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To make the field like this
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Then use this
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To finish the process like this
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Now I know the story changes depending on location, but its really not worth getting too upset over no matter how much you do, or how you do it.
David

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used to be james

02-12-2006 14:46:18

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Re: Think Haying in reply to WyoDave, 02-11-2006 18:10:05

I would like to spend a few hours on that old popper in front of the baler!

Funny thing I notice in comparing these photos is that the Wy. field has grass about as dense as Kelly's driveway. I live in NE Kansas and a good field in a good year will put 100 squares to the acre.(oops, I almost typed 1000 to the acre. That would have got the fuiding started again.) My neighbor told me there was one year when the bales laid out on the ground were nearly touching each other.(that would be a slight exaggeration of course) Looks like quite a drive from bale to bale in Wy.

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WyoDave

02-12-2006 15:55:52

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Re: Think Haying in reply to used to be james, 02-12-2006 14:46:18

That 70 Diesel Standard is a real workhorse. We use it daily to bale. Its great to run early in the morning, but if I have my choice I use one of the other two balers with the AC and radio. Our hay ground will usually yield 5 tons, or about 150 bales per acre, but thats irrigated ground. The picture of the field of baled hay is 3rd cutting which is always quite a bit less than 1st or 2nd, but the quality makes it bring a premium.
David

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RickL

02-12-2006 01:49:37

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Re: Think Haying in reply to WyoDave, 02-11-2006 18:10:05

I agree what is all this about anyway, been doing it since could drag a bale. Somedays things go well and sometyimes things break but thats the way it is with anything mechanical whether baling hay combinig etc. Main thing is you have to have quality product to sell or none of itsd worht doing pay wise. When you get the hay that not prime then its not worht squares,you roll it and becomes cattle salvage. those you don't make much but you have to get it off the ground. Like I said somedays you can do thousands and then ther are days lucky to get couple hundred. Accumulator grapple system is now current method

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Kelly C

02-11-2006 19:07:29

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Re: Think Haying in reply to WyoDave, 02-11-2006 18:10:05

Thats a real nice set up you have. Cant stack that stuff out side around here. Garanteed to rain with in 3 hrs as soon as you get baling.
This is how us Hobby guys do it.

1st we get pulled out because we wanted to start a week before we should have.

But it sure is nice when we get the timing right.

Then we break out the 40 year old NH55 and start to rake.

Whew this might take a wile. When did he say it was going to rain?

Now if it didnt rain for 3 days you get to do this. No fancy self loading here. Did you bring your hay hook? Quick grab that bale!

After we get them on here its time to get them home.

Make sure you take a spare that fits. Just in case.

When you do get home. Its stackin time!!!

Ok where did those kids go that said they would be here to help?
Fun Fun Fun cant wait to get at it again. Only 4 more months for me.

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Robhkent

02-12-2006 06:16:31

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Re: Think Haying in reply to Kelly C, 02-11-2006 19:07:29

Am I the only one that is going to comment that Kelly"s help looks better than we do?

Is that your 400 on the windrower??

How is it going on the 706 ?

Rob

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Kelly C

02-12-2006 07:13:44

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Re: Think Haying in reply to Robhkent, 02-12-2006 06:16:31

Thats my wife. She sure is a help to me. She was dead set against my baling exploits. Until I delivered my 3 set of 80 bales and came home with a check for the 80 plus prepay for 1500 more.
She got kind of motivated then. Of course I dont tell her about every parts run I make, but I show off every check :-)

Yes that is my beloved 400. The best hobby baling tractor there is!

Got the crank back, just waiting on the bearings. Then she is going back together.

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Robhkent

02-12-2006 07:34:05

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Re: Think Haying in reply to Kelly C, 02-12-2006 07:13:44

Thats a big advantage there Kelly. I am heading toward what you are doing, getting some ground going and putting up small squares. Trouble is my wife has severe allergies and asthma... hay field is no place for her. On the tractor, I should get my 560 diesel in to the slightly revamped shop this week and get the head pulled off so I can find out where the radiator bubbles are coming from!

Back to the hay.... can a 5 yr old girl drive a tractor and baler....? ;-)

I know she'd try but I think I will have to wait a while for her to grow up!

Rob

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centralilbaler

02-12-2006 04:53:45

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Re: Think Haying in reply to Kelly C, 02-11-2006 19:07:29

man , it must be nice to have such big fields to bale instead of 3 acres here and 3 there, spending most of the time being a "road warrior"

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WyoDave

02-11-2006 19:39:41

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Re: Think Haying in reply to Kelly C, 02-11-2006 19:07:29

Great pictures. Amazing how similar and yet different haying operations are from site to site.
David

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WyoDave

02-11-2006 19:34:40

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Re: Think Haying in reply to Kelly C, 02-11-2006 19:07:29

Great pictures. Amazing how similar and yet different haying operations are from site to site.
David

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Kelly C

02-11-2006 20:07:02

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Re: Think Haying in reply to WyoDave, 02-11-2006 19:34:40

Sure is. I like yours better :-)
Mine works for Low cost, Low volume ( also know as Inefficient), But high Value hay.
This next year my goal is to make enough to purchase 4 used hay baskets. man will I be in Hog heaven.

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KIP in Mx

02-11-2006 18:58:56

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Re: Think Haying in reply to WyoDave, 02-11-2006 18:10:05

Dave, with as much hay as you put up, I�m surprised you aren�t using a self propelled windrower. Does that machine run completely off tractor hydraulics? I don�t see a PTO shaft. Anyway, it looks like it sure beats an old Hesston 500 with no cab.

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WyoDave

02-11-2006 19:48:09

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Re: Think Haying in reply to KIP in Mx, 02-11-2006 18:58:56

Already own the tractor and its nice to be able to use it for something else. One less engine to maintain. The mower has a self contained hydraulic system that has a pump mounted to the pto then hydraulic lines run to the machine to run it. The lift and swing are run by the tractors hydraulics.
David

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Ken Crisman

02-11-2006 18:36:25

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Re: Think Haying in reply to WyoDave, 02-11-2006 18:10:05

Never got involved in haying as I grew up . But I sure did alot of field work with a tractor putting in large plots of sweet corn , potatoes , & veggies . Grew up in a large family so we ate only what we grew . Didn't own any land so Dad dickered with land owners for the use of their fields . I learned responsibility early . Kids today don't know the meaning of work . I was always impressed seeing farmers putting up hay . I can't wait to smell the fields being fertilized , plowed & planted . Even mowing excites me . I have done that for farmers with my Dads Ford .Oh , the good old days . Ken

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Allan in NE

02-11-2006 18:18:10

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Re: Think Haying in reply to WyoDave, 02-11-2006 18:10:05

Okay Dave,

Guess it's time to spill the beans. We've all been doin' this fussin' and frettin' on purpose and we've been gangin' up on you.

We knew sooner or later you'd weaken, get a belly full of it, jump in here and shut us up. :>)

Just wanted to see your pictures again. Pretty darned impressed with your setup. :>)

Allan

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