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The good and bad of a new holland 489 haybine?

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Bob Allis in Wi

01-16-2006 06:32:48




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I have a opertunity to pick up a 489 , The rolls are missing rubber in spots. The chain between them is Very loose. It has been sitting outside un used for 20 years. Everything turns ok with the pto by hand. ? good or not?




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RickB

01-17-2006 15:43:51




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 Re: The good and bad of a new holland 489 haybine? in reply to Bob Allis in Wi, 01-16-2006 06:32:48  
A 489 only has one drive chain, and it is on the reel drive. Rolls are shaft drive from a gearbox. PTO shaft runs through the tongue. If is otherwise, it ain't a 489. Weak spot at the rear tongue anchor/pivot. I would not buy a machine that needs rolls, period. You just can't save enough to make it worthwhile.



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farmerboy

01-16-2006 19:34:22




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 Re: The good and bad of a new holland 489 haybine? in reply to Bob Allis in Wi, 01-16-2006 06:32:48  
My dad has a 489 for sale in SW WI. It's always been shedded and in very good condition. He's going to a discbine is why he's getting rid of it. Not sure of dad's asking price but I can find out if interested. email me.



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Errin OH

01-16-2006 07:58:23




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 Re: The good and bad of a new holland 489 haybine? in reply to Bob Allis in Wi, 01-16-2006 06:32:48  
I am makin some worst case asumptions here but,

If missin rubber on the rolls your most likely going to have hay wrapin around the them. The edges of the peeling rubber grab some hay and don't spit it out. Long stem (grass, alfalfa, etc) hay is the worst.

Loose chain is likely a wore out chain that has taken sprokets with it. You may get by short term by replacing or tighin the chain but more than likely this will just turn into fix daily.

Sittin out side for 20 years. If done around here there wouldn't be a speck of paint on it. Meaning rough surfaces and or holes in the metal. This would be a real issues for parts of the machine that the hay needed to move across. As in it wouldn't want to. And exposed edges would grab hay and block up the process.

Everything turns ok; If by this you mean I can grab the pto yoke and turn it over with ease, I'd bet that thing is so wore out (loose) there is no resistance. It shouldn't turn over that easy.

Side note; There is another part of that machine that gets real expensive. The woble box didn't have a real good rep for lasting a long time without proper maintenance. From the sounds of it (loose chains, sittin out) it likely will require attention.

Personally I look at it as a parts machine. And that would only be if there are parts that make it worth it. Since the rolls are done, that doesn't leave much. Mabey in the hundreds. Given desc. mabey 5-600. But thats your call. Just be careful. Around here they ask for 2000-4000 for any workin junk NH just becase its red and hay season is coming. Not bashing NH just they guys sellin them. A good working NH will be in the same price range. Workin green can be had a little cheaper 15000-3000. Not sure why givin the tractor rep?? But you'll make up for it when you need parts. Others can go for just about anything under 2000.

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Tip

01-16-2006 07:21:02




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 Re: The good and bad of a new holland 489 haybine? in reply to Bob Allis in Wi, 01-16-2006 06:32:48  
A fine machine, but the rolls are too expensive to replace. If it works and you are cutting orchard grass or timothy, great. It will not do a great job with something finer like alfalfa given the condition of the rolls. My opinion says wait until you find a better one - it will not cost you that much more, but you'll save yourself a bunch of hassle.

Regards, Tip



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Ken Macfarlane

01-17-2006 06:31:00




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 Re: The good and bad of a new holland 489 haybine? in reply to Tip, 01-16-2006 07:21:02  
Missing rubber from 20 years ago will mean bare steel soon with lots of jammed hay if you cut long stemmed stuff. The rollers are very expensive and fairly hard to replace. Just had our partners done last year.

Useless machine without them unless you only cut short stuff



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