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supergrumpy

01-05-2006 06:39:09

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Modern Marvels on History Channel had one huge combine on last night, 492hp Cat engine

the manuf. rep gave a pretty good presentation, somebody claiming to actually own one said it was terrific, looked too much like Hollywood kinda guy, everything under the covers was clean and neat

how on earth can somebody buy something like this and make a profit???

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Cliff Neubauer

01-06-2006 06:37:37

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to supergrumpy, 01-05-2006 06:39:09

It's a matter of cost per acre and if you can run a big combine like that over 6,000-10,000 acres you would probably be sirprised how little it cost per acre to own. That Cat combine is supposed to be rated at 6,000 bushel an hour in good corn which comes out to over 5 mph in 200 bpa corn with a 16 row corn head. That means you are filling a semi every 10 minutes and it would be comparable to a 10" auger running at full capacity non stop.

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Hugh MacKay

01-07-2006 09:53:06

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 01-06-2006 06:37:37

Cliff: I totally agree with what you are saying. Let us assume he has to truck the grain an average of 20 miles. His capital investment in semi's will be greater than the combine. He sure will not haul grain away with farm tractors. Not even sure he'd have time to use a grain buggy.

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Burnie

01-06-2006 00:04:28

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to supergrumpy, 01-05-2006 06:39:09

If you have enough country to cover you can make them pay. Down here in Australia we've had at least two companies making 40 ft. fronts for a number of years now. Our yields are a bit less than you guys but most family farms in the wheat belt range from 8 000 to 20 000 acres. A lot of people use field bins of up to 20 tonnes that can be moved when empty and have lots of on farm storage. Blokes with tipping semis will follow the harvest and hang around town elevators looking for work. A truckie once overheard us on the CB and was at the gate in half an hour. It's been a few years since I've done a big harvest, I really miss it but the family needs me at home these days. Nothing beats working these machines in the middle of nowhere for weeks at a time knocking over hundreds of acres a day. It sure feels good when you stop!!! If any of you guys want to try it, just come on down, they're are allways looking for good operators and the summer harvest starts soon. Take it easy.
Burnie.

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55 50

01-06-2006 08:47:33

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to Burnie, 01-06-2006 00:04:28

Hi Burnie,

I"m not familiar with the word "blokes" but I suspect it means something like a hired hand.

I had a brother who worked as a hired hand on the US custom harvesting annual run for several years from Texas to North Dakota.

What part of Aus is known as the wheat belt? It has been awhile since I studied anything about your geography. Thanks

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Burnie

01-07-2006 02:44:54

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Re: Aust. wheat belt link. in reply to 55 50, 01-06-2006 08:47:33

Ok we'll have one more go for the link.

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Burnie

01-07-2006 02:29:43

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Re: Aust. wheat belt link. in reply to 55 50, 01-06-2006 08:47:33

55 50,
The link didn't work in the last reply.

amol.org.au/discovernet/tales/wheat.asp

Try that. Burnie

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Burnie

01-07-2006 02:24:16

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to 55 50, 01-06-2006 08:47:33

Although blokes can be hired hands, the word "bloke" covers men in general - we use it instead of guys. We don"t really have an equivalant for hired hand although well to do farmers (or those who think they are) sometimes refer to "my working man"- a term I"ve never been keen on. I often use "troops" but that"s just a throwback from my days in the military. As for the wheat belt, it starts in Southern Queensland and runs down behind the Great Dividing Range (about 250 miles from the coast) through New South Wales, Victoria and across to southern South Australia. A lot of wheat is also grown in the south western corner of Western Australia. If you go to the link (if it works), there"s a map and pictures of old equipment. It"s all grown through the winter. In Qeensland we plant in May/June and harvest in October/November. In Queensland and northern New South Wales we also grow summer crops (sorghum, soybeans, cotton, sunflowers, corn etc)so custom combiners who are willing to travel can work up to 7 or 8 months in the year.

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alexf150

01-05-2006 11:16:16

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to supergrumpy, 01-05-2006 06:39:09

The price of that cat machine is most likley a lot cheaper to own and run that 2 JD 9560s that can only handle a 20 or 25 foot head. with the onle large machine you have less meitance, manpower, and fuel than having 2 machines.

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ejr-IA

01-05-2006 11:12:07

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to supergrumpy, 01-05-2006 06:39:09

I've been in the Omaha plant where they assemble that machine .The man they were talking to is from the Amana colonies of Iowa which is the biggest land owners in Iowa.I can't find the amount of acres right now but thinking around 20'000.I know they get the biggest goverment payment in Iowa.

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amana amount in 2004

01-05-2006 23:20:02

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to ejr-IA, 01-05-2006 11:12:07

There is a web site that lists these subsidies and Amana was # 12 in 2004 with about $300,000

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thejdman01

01-05-2006 10:07:02

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to supergrumpy, 01-05-2006 06:39:09

They are probably quite profitable if you have a few sectons side by side connected(section 1 mile square). I would imagine having the one big machine is more profitable then buying 2 say john deere 9550's or wahtever with 2 20ft heads. Dont know havent done the math but i would imagine if you ahve alot of land to runit would work. Alot of these guys i dont understand i can barley put parts on my 6620 and other guys trade every year and pay ridiculous rent. Dont know?

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thejdman01

01-05-2006 10:00:54

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nw_bearcat

01-05-2006 07:49:22

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to supergrumpy, 01-05-2006 06:39:09

And really, it's not the upfront cost of the combine that catches up with you on that machine. the equipment to support it and keep it running up to its potential is a killer. I don't remember what the bu/hour was that it was running at the Farm Progress show last year was, but to haul it away, one would need quite a grain handling system, and a fleet of trucks.

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edchainsaw

01-05-2006 19:53:50

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to nw_bearcat, 01-05-2006 07:49:22

My cousin was an engineer with C-IH for several years. He was working on a Prototype combine that could handle 12,000 bu./ hr.

they assembled a huge head(at the time they didnt have a 12row) 3 auger carts and 10, semis so they could get 12,000 threw it. they got the 12,000 and stopped according to him. they just stopped at 12,000.

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michael price

01-05-2006 06:49:54

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Re: 40 foot wide combine in reply to supergrumpy, 01-05-2006 06:39:09

Go to a tractor dealer and you will say the same thing about everything. I have a JD 5500 and for a new one, 5525 they want the tractor and $25,000.

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