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Christos

01-03-2006 20:53:14

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Hi everyone, I was wondering, I need a two row planter for my garden/plant sweet corn to pay off my tractor. Anybody know of a decent model either 3-point or pull? I've been looking at JD 71 planters but they are outragously expensive is there anything just as good? I was looking at MF planters but I can rarely find them and when I do somebody wants like 1k for it. I saw an oliver two row planter once...I heard those were good too. Anyways, I'm open to suggestions. Originally I was going to by a JD 1240 plateless but I can't justfy a 4 row planter to do 1 acre of corn even if it is 150 bucks.

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Galen

01-06-2006 19:59:24

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Christos, 01-03-2006 20:53:14

Last Spring I bought a 2 row JD planter at a farm sale for $7 (3 point type, I THINK model 290). Took it home and planted sweet corn a few days later. Most of the guys around here (Nebraska) don't want the old 2 ro stuff, so it sells for scrap. Look around you might get luck. Plates are still being made for the older JD "open cell" type planters. Lincoln Ag Products (Lincoln Nebraska) manufactures several different styles and they have a good price on them. I got a bucket full of plates of various sizes at a different auction for 50 cents. Look around!

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Galen

01-09-2006 05:38:49

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Galen, 01-06-2006 19:59:24

I don't know - it could be a combo unit - it has "290" stamped everywhere on it, so it could be a 290 that someone modified. Don't much matter, I guess, the thing works!

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Galen

01-08-2006 18:08:21

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Galen, 01-06-2006 19:59:24

Well, here is a photo of what I got anyhow!

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Leroy

01-08-2006 22:15:57

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Galen, 01-08-2006 18:08:21

Those could just be those No. 71 planter units as it is a tool bar planter and the 71 unit is a tool bar unit and I am not familar with those as they were not sold here. The 246-247 planter is not a tool bar unit but a 3 point hitch planter, 246 corn-247 cotton and you do have corn boxes while the 290 was carried on 2 tires and is either clutch lifted or hydrolic cylinder and was for drawbar tractors only

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Leroy

01-08-2006 17:29:18

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Galen, 01-06-2006 19:59:24

290 is not a 3 point planter but a pull type mostly with a rope lift, a 3 point 2 row JD is a 246 or with cotton boxes a 247

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michael price

01-04-2006 15:01:41

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Christos, 01-03-2006 20:53:14

I was looking for a 2 row JD and well you are right very very expensive. All I could find is around $1000 the cheepest was 750. I did find a brand new planter, it looks cheep but works good. It comes with plates for about anything from corn to turnips, onions, beans, carrots and others . It was made for a small farm like I do with about 1 acre of corn and a little of everything else. These planters are home made and are hard to find. The one row I got was about $160 and I was told the 2 row was a little over $200. What is nice is you can adjust the 2 row to get the width you want. If you would like let me know and Ill see if I can find the guy I got mine from to see if you could buy one.

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jhill

01-04-2006 12:37:26

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Christos, 01-03-2006 20:53:14

Allis Chalmers made some good unit planters. They were used on model 600 planters and others. They are individually ground driven like the JD 71s. They work good. You would need to build your own 3 pt carrier which would not be hard.

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MikeinKy

01-04-2006 08:59:05

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Christos, 01-03-2006 20:53:14

Watch the auctions this winter. Last year I saw an Oliver 6 row unit planter sell for $60.00. I have kicked myself ever since for not bidding on it. I could have made 3 two rows out of that. Kept one and sold two. You can use any planter that has each row driven by the press wheel. Just make a tool bar.

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RickL

01-04-2006 00:32:01

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Christos, 01-03-2006 20:53:14

Why not you just said yourself the 2 row units were to high priced. makes lot more sense to me,planting in half the time,parts way more available. If you can't afford that for a planter then how are you going to afford to purchase the sweet corn seed.

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Christos

01-04-2006 09:05:46

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to RickL, 01-04-2006 00:32:01

While you do have a good point, I was asking for what two row models are just as good as a JD 71 for example that cost a lot less to purchase. The reason why I didn't get the four row (as I had planned) is because for one acre, that planter wouldn't have even used all the seed that it would have taken to get the fingers primed. Likewise, the fertilizer bins still had fertilizer in them so it was kinda rusty. I like old farm machinery don't get me wrong, sometimes its just not economical to pump money into it.

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farmerboy

01-04-2006 15:40:54

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Christos, 01-04-2006 09:05:46

Surface rust never killed anybody. As long as the unit looks solid below the rust, I'd go that way. No law exists that you'd have to put seed in all the units. You could take the two outer units off or just run them empty. If you run the outer ones empty, run them right next to the previous pass of the center units. Unless you're cultivating, a little extra space between passes won't hurt anything. Don't run right over the planted row as you'll tear it up. You're not looking for prefect seed placement and population for 220 bushel yields so anything that puts it in the ground relatively accurately and fast is all you need.

I tore apart a 494 this past summer to use the fertilizer units to side dress my corn. There was nothing to it. Taking units off is super simple.

I have a manual for a 1240 if you end up going that way. You WILL need a manual no matter what unit you buy.

Good luck whatever you do.

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Christos

01-04-2006 17:36:10

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to farmerboy, 01-04-2006 15:40:54

Well I have the Operator and Parts Manuals for a 1240 (I have all the parts manuals from the horse drawn planters up until the 7000) so the manuals arn't the problem (and thank you for the offer),as when I went to go price seed from my local seed mill last summer after I went and looked at the 1240 they told me that a) the price of seed per pound was starting at 9 bucks and b) that its not worth the money because how much seed it would take to prime the seed fingers so it would work.

It is a nice planter except for the rust (it had some surface and some erosion, even came with the monitor hoop ups)- I had remotes installed on my MF 135 when it was overhauled because I was almost certain I was going to buy it.

However, I realized even then that 2-rows were the route for me - like someone suggested earlier get some row driven units and mount them on a tool bar - I was contemplating the feasablity of taking units off a 7000 series planter(for example) and mounting them onto a tool bar but I don't know how to make one (tool bar) and even where to get the specs to make it 3-point compatable which is what I want. (if anyone has done something like this please PM me.)

I'm not fighting the idea of using a four row as they can be had cheap, I don't know if I can make it work yet. I may go get that 1240 just yet, but I am still looking for alternative suggestions.

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paul

01-05-2006 18:47:45

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Re: Planter Suggestions in reply to Christos, 01-04-2006 17:36:10

There are a gazzillion fellows with 5-20 acres looking to do what you are doing right now, so the old 2 row planters that used to sell for $25 are now selling for $500-1000 as you have found. That"s how it is.

The 4 row unit for cheap is a good route to go, with the issues you have mentioned of course.

Making a pair of 2 row 3pt planters out of a 4 row 7000 is not too bad, need to work up a driver setup for it, & welding of the frame. Three point standard measurements are 26 inches between pins, and, um, 14 or 15 inches up to the top link. However, you still have the finger wells to fill & waste, so still a problem.

A 494 type of plate planter would probably meet your needs better.

--->Paul

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