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Charlie M

12-28-2005 14:53:53




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I'm considering picking up a baler with the old IH throwers from the 60's. I'm thinking the thrower is a 12A or something similar. Were these things any good? Seems like people want pretty good money around here for them. Salvage yard wanted $300 just for the thrower a couple of years ago. I was surprised they had any value still left.




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350 HU Don

12-29-2005 14:43:07




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Charlie M, 12-28-2005 14:53:53  
Bale throwers are nice but I'd urge caution if you were to select a John Deere thrower. A fellow I know well lost his teeth, cut his face badly and nearly lost his life when he got kicked by one when it tripped unexpectedly. The belt type are much safer, although as others have pointed out, they have their problems too.



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RickL

12-28-2005 23:05:29




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Charlie M, 12-28-2005 14:53:53  
Been there done that also grew up behind thrower balers and after doing that and then getting back into the hay business years later I ran bale basket wagons instead and what I learned was simple. NO WAY would I go back to thrower units, instead get you a bale basket wagon period. So much easier to unload at he elevator also as all you have to do is trip the gate and let them slide to you as you put them aon the elevator. I ran thre of them for over tens seasons and loved them. I now run accumulator system.

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Leroy

12-29-2005 05:14:08




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to RickL, 12-28-2005 23:05:29  
Some bale baskets around and from what I have seen of then there is no possible way I would ever have one of those things. I could own 10 wagons for price of one of those and the idea of dumping everything on the ground at the elevator stinks. I do not want that mess laying on the ground in my yard to get wet and rot there and we ran all the chaff that was left on the wagon thru a hammermill to mix in hog feed. Try doing that if you have to pick it up off a gravel drive.

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RickL

12-29-2005 06:25:19




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Leroy, 12-29-2005 05:14:08  
dumping them on the gound and scattering them is not the wagons fault just the operator. You do not need to do that,all you have to do is line up with the elevator like you do and trip the gate,you never move the wagon. you just let them slide to you as you pu them on the elevator,you never have to walk very far at most the width of the unit and not the length like you do in the regular wagon units. Only time I ever dumped the unit like you are talking about is when customers bring there trailers to field and then the daughter would pull along side aand dump the load as customer threw them on there trailer while she was baling another. As far as the loose stuff no more than anyother unit as yours just doesn't show up as it stays in a regualer wagon till you do physicall clean them out after while. Its really shame how some operators use stuff and always blame it one the item when they have troubles. Ten wagons versus one don't know where that comes from it just sounds like lots of tires and wheel bearings to me. You really should try unit as obviuosly you haven't and use them correctly. But its whatever works in your mind that counts. But for my investment it would be basket wagons period. Like I said before been there done that with all the other wagons on square baler,also never have to worry about the thrower missing the wagon on hillsides and curves. The three units that I had are now being used in Ohio and the fellow just loves them also.

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Leroy

12-29-2005 15:38:10




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to RickL, 12-29-2005 06:25:19  
The 3 units that I know about are here in Ohio and belong to a distance cousin of mine



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RickL

12-30-2005 09:40:49




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Leroy, 12-29-2005 15:38:10  
My be same units as far as I know will need to go back inrecords to pull up buyers name. If they have the door latches modified then they were my units. Happy Holidays



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Leroy

12-30-2005 16:29:03




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to RickL, 12-30-2005 09:40:49  
Have never been that close to them, they are in the hay business and unload in field always to reload on truck



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JK-NY

12-28-2005 16:51:43




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Charlie M, 12-28-2005 14:53:53  
Tom makes good points on these throwers. I have a #47 IH baler with #10 thrower. A couple more things about them - do not try to make too long of a bale with these throwers , 34 -36" is about right , any longer and the thrower is trying to pull the bale out of the bale chamber. ALWAYS be sure the thrower is cleared before you stop PTO. It is a killer to get a bale out if it gets stuck in the thrower and you cant restart baler, it will smoke the belts.Usually have to cut bales out if stuck.I found the baler works better run a little slow(500 rpm at pto) so you need to crank up the variable speed for the thrower to offset this. They arent the best thrower, but they get the job done. They are painfull if you get a broken bale wrapped around the rollers , or shut down just as it starts to throw a bale. My JD 336 with the pan thrower is a lot better machine .

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Leroy

12-29-2005 05:27:08




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to JK-NY, 12-28-2005 16:51:43  
Our thrower was a #10 on a #46 baler and only problem was if the hay was to damp, you found out right away as it would not throw the heavy bales but if the hay was in shape to bale and 30" what we ran and you do not want any longer to keep bales from coming apart in wagon it would thro across the back of 18' wagon and if you wanted to top out to get every bale possible on the wagon ahead of storm when you had on all that would stay with the thrower you stoped and driver got up on wagon and restacked around edges and then when driver got back on tractor he could get several more bales on wagon. And there is no problem getting thrower started if you stop with bale in thrower, just while you are stoped go back to thrower and dissengage the clutch on thrower, as this is what it is on there for, start baler and engage clutch and out pops the bale. We had 4 wagons with 8' racks on 6'x16', 6 1/2'x16', 7'x16', and 7'x18' and the bigger ones were always the last to get used

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TomHath

12-28-2005 15:49:08




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Charlie M, 12-28-2005 14:53:53  
I don't know the 12A model. I had a 10 and didn't like it at all. It threw the bale by feeding it through six spinning rollers. If the bale is tight, cut cleanly, and the baler never misses a knot it works okay. But any loose hay or a broken bale gets wrapped around the rollers and makes a big mess.



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old

12-28-2005 15:08:51




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Charlie M, 12-28-2005 14:53:53  
Throwers are nice to have but can be unsafe for a person on a wagon, don't ask been there done that sort of thing. Can't help as far as an IH one. Had one on a JD-14T and loved it.



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TP from Central PA

12-28-2005 17:25:56




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to old, 12-28-2005 15:08:51  
IMO, having used both balers with a chute, and with a thrower..... ..The ones with a thrower are alot safer to use if someone has to stack a rack behind the baler. I hated baling on hills trying to move from the front to the back of the wagon without slipping on the worn wood. With the thrower and a competent operator on the tractor, he could throw the bales right to you. We had NH"s and could crank the speed down so they would just slide across the wagon to you. And then as you worked up stacking, he could crank it up and throw them to you so you didn"t have to lift them as you would loading off a chute. I"d never have a baler without a thrower, even if I was stacking manually.

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JMS/MN

12-28-2005 17:21:05




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to old, 12-28-2005 15:08:51  
Why would anyone be in the wagon when you have a bale thrower? That's the whole idea-----one man baling system, and the wagons are filled. No wonder people get hurt when they circumvent the intention of the invention! And we should feel bad when someone gets hurt in a farm 'accident'? There are very few real farm accidents. Mostly people doing stupid things.



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TP from Central PA

12-29-2005 07:03:26




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to JMS/MN, 12-28-2005 17:21:05  
Next time I'll keep a chute baler around to load the two extra flat racks I had besides the kicker wagons..... .....I have stacked both kicker and flat racks behind a thrower and have never had a problem. With a NH thrower with the speed cranked down and a competent operator they are as safe as a chute. And IMO here on our hills, its alot easier to get hurt running across the slick wagon bed plucking bales from a chute.

Glad the safety police aren't around here when the rain is coming, because everyone else does the same thing(Stacking a rack behind a thrower).

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Leroy

12-29-2005 05:06:57




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to JMS/MN, 12-28-2005 17:21:05  
Correct



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old

12-28-2005 15:08:35




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Charlie M, 12-28-2005 14:53:53  
Throwers are nice to have but can be unsafe for a person on a wagon, don't ask been there done that sort of thing. Can't help as far as an IH one. Had one on a JD-14T and loved it.



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old

12-28-2005 15:07:51




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 Re: IH bale throwers in reply to Charlie M, 12-28-2005 14:53:53  
Throwers are nice to have but can be unsafe for a person on a wagon, don't ask been there done that sort of thing. Can't help as far as an IH one. Had one on a JD-14T and loved it.



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