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modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows

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farmerboy

12-19-2005 14:33:35




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Got to thinking about how I'm gonna put in soybeans this year. I can get my 60 NF down 24 inch minimum rows. I have a 7000 planter and bean cups for it but I really don't wanna grow the beans on 38 inch rows and can't spray so I can't just go over the ground twice, planting inside the rows on the previous pass. I gotta cultivate them. I know I can modify my cultivator with little effort for this.

Anyone on here ever cut up a 7000 and make it into a narrower row machine? I think I can make this unit a 6 row 24 inch with only cutting and welding the wheel assembly, right? To get population, I'd just figure for half again the population it did in 4 row.

I plan on growing corn in 24 inch rows eventually but don't wanna tackle the corn head this year.

What am I missing, other than my sanity? Will the units fit in 24 inches? Any good sources in print or on the web for tips on modifying these planters?

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Cliff Neubauer

12-22-2005 07:38:11




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 Re: modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows in reply to farmerboy, 12-19-2005 14:33:35  
I think the easiest way would be to find a 7100 series planter and use a pair of goosneck type hitches to attach it behind you current planter so that the units on it split the middles of the front planter. I've built a 15" bean planter out of an IH 800 series planter (was featured in this month's Farm Journal magazine) and it was a huge project. If you go with a planter design with two tool bars you will have alot easier time getting everything to fit compared to trying to squeeze everything onto the same bar.

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JMS/MN

12-20-2005 08:21:27




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 Re: modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows in reply to farmerboy, 12-19-2005 14:33:35  
JD already makes planters and heads in 22 inch rows, don't know why 24 would be better, especially if you have to make your equipment to fit. Splitter attachment for narrow beans is also available, and the skip row idea works fine for cultivating. Separate setup for beans, like what Paul found, are not that hard to find.



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RickL

12-20-2005 07:09:29




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 Re: modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows in reply to farmerboy, 12-19-2005 14:33:35  
You can make whatever you choose if you want bad enough,personally that spacing will be yours period and the planter you have now will have no value at all once you do it for that spacing. 15" yes,besides you may or may not see any yield advantage anyway. Alot of the different widths all still end up yielding the same anyway in most years. Lets just say been there done that and in my eyes it won't be worth the effort as far as yield goes. What you have will yield just as much and at least you have some resale value now. Do what you want thats all that matters anyway,if 24" makes you happy then do it

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paul

12-19-2005 18:45:48




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 Re: modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows in reply to farmerboy, 12-19-2005 14:33:35  
I haven't ever done any, only what I hear:

24 inch should work on spacing, will be tight & hard to fill the hoppers. My understanding is that 20 inch doesn't work well as the hoppers bang into each other.

24 inch means you are all alone tho? 15, 20, 22, and 30 are the common row spacings, 22 is very common in beet growing areas, 15 requires special corn heads, while some heads can be narrowed to 20 inch. I'd consider going with a more common spacing than 24 myself. Straddle 3 rows, widen the wheel spacing....

For the wrk involved, might want to look at a different planter, some are a lot eisier to modify.

Other options, a friend ran one with the skip rows at 30 inch, and the rest of the rows shrunk to 24 inch or so. A bean planter tho, not for corn. :)

You can bolt on single planter units with a little work to make your 4 row a 7 row. Takes some McGyvering, pusher or trailing behind the wheels.

I bought a 15 row 3pt bean bar, with 15 IHC 295 meter units on it & 2 skip rows for $250 a couple years ago. Also bought the 15 row matching cultivator for $50. Might pay to look around.

Moving parts around on the planter & cultivator that has been set the way it is for decades isn't always as easy at it looks. Things kinda get set in their ways. :)

--->Paul

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farmerboy

12-20-2005 17:43:19




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 Re: modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows in reply to paul, 12-19-2005 18:45:48  
You all make a very good point about having to custom make a head for corn. After looking through the manual on my 60, it only will adjust out to 88 inches anyhow. Perfect for 22 inch, not so good for 24 inch.

Also, after doing a bit more figuring, the planter boxes won't go down to 22 inches where the wheels are anyhow. I called a guy who specializes in planters in Columbus and asked him some questions today. I can make a toolbar to run behind the wheels but that makes for a long planter and lots of fabrication. He said a 7100 or 7300 3pt might be more my liking. Just like you guys say as well.

So I think I'll look around for a 7100 3 point planter. My 4430 should be able to keep its front wheels on the ground as long as I load up on the suitcase weights.

How do I put starter on with a 3 pt machine, saddle tanks? Anyone know of a 7100 for sale? They're common as hen's teeth here in SW WI.

What would I do without you guys? ;-)

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paul

12-24-2005 23:31:33




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 Re: modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows in reply to farmerboy, 12-20-2005 17:43:19  
Liquid is the way to apply starter with a bar planter.

Friend got a 7000 8 row, with a 7100 set to 7 row on a fabricated rear carrage. Works well for him, nice setup, 15 inch that way. He does corn 30 inch, beans 15.

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edchainsaw

12-19-2005 19:58:34




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 Re: modifying a 7000 planter to 24 inch rows in reply to paul, 12-19-2005 18:45:48  
I think you can get the 7000 actually down to 18 in.. they made a bean planter that had that spacing I think it was called a 7300 (it had bigger boxes; 3pt; drove off the front of the bar)

I think making it 24 would be ok but not for corn that would be hard to deal with.



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