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Ron

01-07-2000 19:45:24




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While not really looking for a mower I ran across an old sixty or early 70 something model New Idea frail type mower. Only thing wrong was the pto shaft was slightly bent. I figured for 100.00 what the heck, why not. I went to a local Kabota dealer who carried new Idea equipment to see if I could get parts if I needed them. He had nothing good to say about my new machine. He said he never would sell them because they were bad for hay , in fact would kill the hay by damaging roots, but he did have parts. Later I talked with another old gent who owned one. Said his cut like crazy except he was afraid of it. According to him it threw a rock almost through his radiator. Does anyone know if these machines have this reputation? Is there anything good about them? I was ready to mow some hay with this thing next summer before I heard all this stuff.

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Tom from Ontario

01-09-2000 12:19:53




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 Re: New Idea- Frail Mower in reply to Ron, 01-07-2000 19:45:24  
I've got one of these things, too. Our 5000 Ford at 62 hp is working in heavy hay with it, but it also needs new flails. As far as I'm concerned, that crack about damaging hay is so much bushwah, but they do have a lot of suction force and that makes them great for picking up any hay that has been tamped or use them as a tedder. If you want a thrill, run over a ground hog hole with one and they will most definitely throw stone, far and fast. But you won't have a groundhog mound anymore either. Keep the flails as sharp as you can and try not to pick up too much crap because once the flails are really whipped it will cost about a grand for new ones and a bunch of work to put them on. These things are also an ace for chopping corn stalks.

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Farmer Tom

01-08-2000 18:24:24




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 Re: New Idea- Frail Mower in reply to Ron, 01-07-2000 19:45:24  
You didn't indicate what model it is. I have a NI 279 I've used for hay for several years. The one bad thing I experienced with it, is that it takes a lot of horsepower! My JD3020 can handle it, but it strains a bit. Hooked to my Oliver 1850, we sail along. Safety? I don't let anyone behind it and I stay on the tractor when it is running (just good sense anyhow). I have not noticed any hay field damage from using it. Because of its simple design, repairs have been few. I've also used it as a tedder, rake and even to mow pasture fields and wheat stubble. I hope we are talking about the same type of machine. The knives on mine are cup shapped and are hooked to a round rod; they swing on the rod freeley, albeit for rotational force when its running. Personally, my machine is just a tough ole bird and keeps on going like the bunny!

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Jiff

01-09-2000 04:23:50




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 Re: Re: New Idea- Frail Mower in reply to Farmer Tom, 01-08-2000 18:24:24  
FLAIL mower!!!



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Tim(nj)

01-09-2000 13:11:39




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 Re: Re: Re: New Idea- Frail Mower in reply to Jiff, 01-09-2000 04:23:50  
New Idea called them CutDitioners. And they aren't good for alfalfa, clover or other leguminous hays, since they knock off the leaves. Make sure the roller is still on the front. I'm trying to get a guy near here to give one up that's like new. I need it for mowing rye straw, his uncle bought it at a sale but didn't like it for hay, so kept using the haybine instead, there it sets in the shed for 13 years and counting. . . .

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Farmer Tom

01-08-2000 18:22:24




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 Re: New Idea- Frail Mower in reply to Ron, 01-07-2000 19:45:24  
You didn't indicate what model it is. I have a NI 279 I've used for hay for several years. The one bad thing I experienced with it, is that it takes a lot of horsepower! My JD3020 can handle it, but it strains a bit. Hooked to my Oliver 1850, we sail along. Safety? I don't let anyone behind it and I stay on the tractor when it is running (just good sense anyhow). I have not noticed any hay field damage from using it. Because of its simple design, repairs have been few. I've also used it as a tedder, rake and even to mow pasture fields and wheat stubble. I hope we are talking about the same type of machine. The knives on mine are cup shapped and are hooked to a round rod; they swing on the rod freeley, albeit for rotational force when its running. Personally, my machine is just a tough ole bird and keeps on going like the bunny!

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