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Best way to work in manure

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Nathan in Ohio

11-27-2005 19:10:44




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I have access to a lot of free manure that I plan on spreading on my 1 acre field. What is the best way to work it in?? A chisel plow, moldboard plow, or disk? Any other suggestions? Thanks




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buckva

11-28-2005 13:04:52




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  

On one acre I suggest a couple of bags of fertiizer and let the rain/snow wash it in



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John Schneider

11-28-2005 12:57:41




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  
You probably don't want to spread fresh horse manure over any piece of dirt that you intend to use for agriculture. Horse manure is very dirty with seeds etc. Horse digestive systems are quite inefficient. I would put it in a pile to compost it over a year or so turning it a few times before spreading it. Modern "farmers" have forgotten how to do things properly over the years, depending instead on fertilizers and anhydrous ammonia in order to obtain short term results. Doing it properly takes some time and effort ie composting. My grandfather had a huge pile of manure way out back that built up over the years, he would simply take what he needed from an old part of the pile to spread in the fields always aging it. He was an organic farmer before it was vogue.

How to work it in depends on what you are doing. If it is hayland, a set of disk harrows set light will work it in enough and give some aeration at the same time. If it is going into a garden or something, spread it in the spring with your cultivator/plow in preparation for seeding. Good luck.

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paul

11-28-2005 21:01:53




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to John Schneider, 11-28-2005 12:57:41  
Letting to composte properly with heat buildup will cook out the weed seeds, and make something a lot better quality for a garden, that is true.

If this is a seed plot for deer or some such, fresh manure will keep the nutrients for the crop, not leached away on the pile site.

You do highlight the 2 different uses/ goals very well.

--->Paul



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paul

11-28-2005 05:35:02




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  
Kinda difficult to say, since: We are slowly being regulated into _not_ spreading manure on the surface & leaving it sit over winter. You lose 1/2 the N that way, & a lot of P can be washed into the rivers. However, we are also being regulated into not doing fall tillage, as that may cause erosion..... It is becoming difficult to be a real farmer. I guess they let hobbyists get away with anything.... Sorry, a burr under my saddle on that.... ;)

Ignoring tree huggers & non-farmer ideas, any of your ideas works well. It depends on what type (liqiud, deep straw pack, somewhat composted, etc.) of manure you are dealing with, your soil type, and how you are applying it. And, how long between application & your next planting.

The chisel plow would likely meet the middle of the road goals of all of the above issues. If you want max manure value, incorporate the manure while it is still damp - withing 12 hours of application. A plow is good too, if you live in those types of soil conditions. The disk may not burry enough stff, unless you have a heavy duty primary tillage type of disk.

But, for a garden arce, I'd do any of the above, wait over winter, & you will be just fine. Spreading now & leaving it sit over winter & doing spring tillage as others mention works fine too if you are looking to build soil humus, and not needing max N, P & K - likely the case for a garden area.

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hay

11-28-2005 05:50:45




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to paul, 11-28-2005 05:35:02  
paul, you hit the nail on the head about being "regulated". seems like we can't do anything now without the gubberment or some yuppie wannabe tree hugger 'farmer' watching and screaming about everything that works. git rid of them and maybe we can go back to real farming.



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Logan in S.E. Texas

11-28-2005 02:07:54




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  
I"ld suggest at least wearin" rubber boots. That or go completely barefoot.....



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Ken Crisman

11-27-2005 21:38:11




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  
The best & easiest way I found was to have the old lady work in it . But that's hard on a marriage . I learned she didn't like taking much crap from me . Being single's not that bad . He he ! Ken



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old

11-27-2005 20:39:42




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  
My self I just put it on thick and let it sit till spring. The winter rain and snow will brake it down and you may not even have to do any thing with it depending on what it is and how much you put on. I do that in my garden and till it in in the spring, in my field I just spread it and let it go and never even till it in any way. In my field mother nature just a better job and for less $$ then I can ever do..

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FrenzFarms

11-27-2005 20:15:23




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  
What type of manure is it? Does it have a lot of straw in it? Dry? Wet? High or low odor? You can spread it on and leave it sit over winter to break down if its not too offensive and then just disk it in when you do your spring tillage. It's pretty forgiving.



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Nathan in Ohio

11-28-2005 06:03:21




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to FrenzFarms, 11-27-2005 20:15:23  
Sorry forgot to give enough info. Its fresh horse manure with quite a bit of straw.



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Nathan in Ohio

11-28-2005 05:58:53




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to FrenzFarms, 11-27-2005 20:15:23  
Sorry forgot to give enough info. Its fresh horse manure with quite a bit of straw.



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Don-Wi

11-27-2005 19:54:35




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 Re: Best way to work in manure in reply to Nathan in Ohio, 11-27-2005 19:10:44  
I'd say it's between a chisel and a moldboard plow. A disc won't do much unless it's already loose soil. For only 1 acre I can't imagine you have much to work with HP and equipment wise. A small tractor like a 135 massey and a 2 bottom plow will be the best route for you. Most dealers have a minimum # of acres to work, ours is 20 acres/day. You could find a neighbor willing to work it for a price, or if they like you enough, a case of beer. Donovan from Wisconsin

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