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ChirsLSD

11-18-2005 17:00:52




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Toying with the idea of experimenting with wrapping some small square bales with plastic at about 20 to 30% moisture for sweet hay But I have a few questions.....
On a real wrapping machine how does the actual wrapping process egt started - is the end of the plastic attached to the bale somehow?
On a real wrapper I wouild assume that the plastic is one continuous piece - just covering the whole thing, is this correct?
has anybody fed anything like this - did you like it and what do you do with the leftover plastic?
is the plastic thin and stretchy like saran wrap or more like silage pile plastic?

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ChrisLSD

11-21-2005 14:10:50




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 Re: wrapped bales in reply to ChirsLSD, 11-18-2005 17:00:52  
it is hayandforage.com
I just checked though and they haven't put the latest one on the net yet ....



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ChrisLSD

11-20-2005 11:17:32




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 Re: wrapped bales in reply to ChirsLSD, 11-18-2005 17:00:52  
hayandforagegrower.com has an article on sweet hay - i made afew a couple years ago by accident - it felt dry but was really late in the year (Nov 1) or so - the animals loved them -

so was considering taking like a stack of 9 square bales (3 to alyer times 3 layers and wrapping that whole system - getting about a 500 lb package that would last a small outfit a week or so....

just pondering....

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Kent in NB

11-19-2005 17:55:48




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 Re: wrapped bales in reply to ChirsLSD, 11-18-2005 17:00:52  
There is a company in Ireland making wrappers for small square bales. I think the name was Hale, or McHale? Saw a flyer about 2 years ago. Price was around $8000.00 Canadian. Roy in UK may be able to shed some light on this. Your moisture would need to be closer to 60% or you risk mold growth. Don't try to do mature crop or you will have nothing but garbage.



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Kent in NB

11-19-2005 17:54:27




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 Re: wrapped bales in reply to ChirsLSD, 11-18-2005 17:00:52  
There is a company in Ireland making wrappers for small square bales. I think the name was Hale, or McHale? Saw a flyer about 2 years ago. Price was around $8000.00 Canadian. Roy in UK may be able to shed some light on this. Your moisture would need to be closer to 60% or you risk mold growth. Don't try to do mature crop or you will have nothing but garbage.



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paul

11-19-2005 10:54:47




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 Re: wrapped bales in reply to ChirsLSD, 11-18-2005 17:00:52  
I've never used bale acid or wrapped any, so I'm a poor one to give advise....

But, for silage you would want more moisture.

For acid treatment, you don't want it wrapped.

Not at all common to wrap a small square bale, way too much plastic needed per amount of hay involved, you'd go broke. Over on a homesteading board, a few folks experiment with wet hay in garbage bags, but enough for 2 goats or something is all....

Round bales are common to see wrapped, I'd heard of large squares tho not seen it done.

So, a little confused on what you are trying to accomplish. Are small squares wrapped in your region? Always like to hear how folks get it done in other parts of the world. :)

--->Paul

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barnrat

11-19-2005 07:00:28




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 Re: wrapped bales in reply to ChirsLSD, 11-18-2005 17:00:52  
Im not sure what size bales your talking but the smallest bale that can be wrapped by machine is 3'x3'x6' if your planning on wrapping at 20 to 30 percent moisture you will most likley get poor fermentation(60% moisture is ideal). If you wanna make hay at that moisture try a buffer like proproinic acid or other forage persevative applied when you make the bales. The bales will be a little heavier but it does make nice feed.

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