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Michael Soldan

11-15-2005 13:44:40

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I have a 16' overhead door and something has gone out of whack. I am sure that the spring on one side has had the set screws come loose and it has unwound somewhat making the door askew in the frame. How does one go about adjusting the door. I know you use rods in the end of the spring to turn them and then tighten set screws but ..do you loosen off both springs with the door down and then wind them equally..how many turns? any suggestions would be helpful...building is just two years old, I never thought to check and tighten set screws on the springs and I guess they worked loose...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Dave NE IA

11-22-2005 21:12:37

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

Go for the pro's---but if you do decide to do it yourself, get the instructions. I do not know your limitations, you must judge that yourself. The biggest thing that I find being a safty issue is --throw away your first thought of tools needed---NO---A SCREWDRIVER IS NOT A SUBSTATUTE FOR THE ---VERY CORRECT SIZE ROD TO LOOSTEN OR TIGHTEN THE SPRINGS. EVEN A INCORRECT DIAMETER ROD IS DANGEROUS !!!! Those spring ends are cheap pop metal and a corner can break out if the rods do not fit tight. Take your time and make sure you have full depth contact each time you change the rods position. A picture would be worth a thousand words, and I do not probably get the true overall problem, but if the door is crooked it is not the springs, Compare both cable drums. My first guess is a jumped cable as a result of the roller catching on the track somewhere. I have fixed many a (assumed)weak spring with only a oil soaked rag and rubbing the spring. Before oiling or adjusting the spring, even prior to new instalation --make a line across the spring with a white chalk so you can put it back like it was before you messed with it. And with new instalation, you can see how many turns you have after you loose count. Good luck and be safe. Dave NE IA

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Gorilla

11-17-2005 20:19:50

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

CALL A PROFESSIONAL!!!!! !!! I have replaced a LOT of springs and worked on a LOT of doors. I cant tell you the number of times I worked on doors with blood slung on the ceiling or owners walking around with a bandaged up arm. You can also turn it from an easy repair to a door piled up on the garage floor. Im a do it yourself kind of guy but not in this case.

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buss

11-17-2005 17:27:28

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2qwert in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

my springs have a tag on them saying how much tenison crawl up and check

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RickL

11-16-2005 06:27:21

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

Just got done installing two more overhead doors and it sounds to me like the pulley with the cable on one side has came loose or slipped. Usually the springs that you wind on that size of door has keys in them plus the locking set screws so if done correctly it is awfull hard for those to slip, whats the length of you springs now if what you think truly has happen the springs will be different lengths now. If you have not dealt with these before I strongly urge you to call the people who did them for you originally as those springs are not to be played with if you have no experience with them. otherwise let me know and I can probably step you thru it.

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teadave

11-15-2005 18:43:21

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

if you don't mind me asking, who installed them originally? also if a spring does loosen off, it wont let the door go askew. the torsion shaft is one piece(or 2 but with an adjustable coupler in the center) can i have more info on the door and then maybe i can help .

teadave in rainy windy southwestern ontario

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Michael Soldan

11-15-2005 22:08:21

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to teadave, 11-15-2005 18:43:21

Teadave, It has two springs on a shaft, there appears to be a coupler in the middle and at each end is the pulley for the cable. I think the set screws worked loose on one of the springs, because of this the end with spring tension seems to be pulling moreso and has skewed the door. The door was installed by the builder and is just two years old..it never gave a problem before, ran straight and true..16' wide and 14' high..Mike in Exeter Ontario

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teadave

11-16-2005 19:49:38

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 22:08:21

16 x 14? call a door guy to fix it. i'd come do it, but i'm a little too far away to make it worthwhile. also, the springs WILL NOT make it hang on an angle.the springs only place tension on the shaft, and the shaft turns the drums which pulls on the cables.
if you really want to, go up with a pair of 9/16" wrenches and loosen the shaft coupler in the center(if thats what it really is)and go from there. be really careful, as those springs have a LOT of tension on them. you can e-mail me & continue this in private instead of on this forum.

teadave

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Butcher

11-15-2005 17:06:03

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

I,m guessing it is a torsion spring door? I have worked on and installed a number of them. If you are not sure about what you are doing you may want to contact the manufaturer or the origonal installer. One wrong move with those springs can be very painful. Have seen it happen. You need to know how many turns to turn those springs depending on there size.

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Butcher

11-15-2005 17:00:29

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old

11-15-2005 15:58:12

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

Glen has it about right, but left out a couple things. Close the door ya it maybe hard to do. Lock it down so it can't jump up and knock you off a ladder. Then as Glen says tighten up the spring, hope its not broken. Be careful when you tighten it up because the spring will if not careful throw a rod like what you will use out like a bullet from a gun. Don't ask how I know. I worked at a place for 6 years and had to work on the doors all the time. Take it slow and watch what your doing and you should be ok. Also don;t let others watch you unless there holding on to the ladder because if that rod slips from your hand it could hurt them easy.

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farmerjohn

11-16-2005 14:29:25

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to old, 11-15-2005 15:58:12

DEFINATELY LEAVE IT TO A PROFESSIONAL IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING! I was installing one on the job a few years ago and picked up the wrong spring, it was wound too tight, door came up and knocked over my ladder, gave me a three month vacation with a leg cast.

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centralilbaler

11-17-2005 15:33:46

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to farmerjohn, 11-16-2005 14:29:25

sounds to me farmerjohn, you got lucky. I got wapped upside the head with the cable, broke my nose in three places, lost the vision in one eye and broke a piece of my skull off. I'd trade ya the 3 months in a cast for my vision back

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Glenn FitzGerald

11-15-2005 15:36:44

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-15-2005 13:44:40

I've installed/repaired a few doors. When replacing one broken cable, etc., I never loosen up the other side. I simply look at the amount of wraps on the good side to try to get a visual. Then I begin winding. Of course when the door hangs and pulls level you're done. Door is 16" tall...? That'll be SOME tightening. In your case it shouldn't be a problem as the cables are for sure the same length. Glenn F.

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fixerupper

11-15-2005 18:03:47

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Re: O/T Overhead Doors in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-15-2005 15:36:44

Haven't worked with torsion springs for awhile, but I remember some springs having a line painted across them lengthways so you can keep track of the number of twists. Jim

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