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jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...?

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TimS

11-14-2005 08:26:13




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I think I about have this 14t figured out now, haha.

On the side that has been giving us problems was adjusted differently on the tucker finger pivot, I set it the same as the good side, of course hay season is over for this year and the baler is cleaned up and put away, guess I will find out next year unless I get impatient and break some bales and try it.

Anyhow, my question: The rods that move the tucker fingers have an eye on one end that goes over a shaft that is on the tucker fingers, these eyes seem like they have worn some and make for a lot of slop in moving the tucker fingers....anyone have any ideas on if that is normal or a fix for it? ( Besides getting replacement rods from deere )

I am thinking of putting a couple 5/16th inch brass compression sleeves on the shaft, one above and one below the eye, I put one on below and it tightened up the action a lot, it gives that eye a brass bevel to ride on and takes the slop out of it....

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rocfarm

11-30-2005 09:24:22




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to TimS, 11-14-2005 08:26:13  

im thinking of buying a 14t. it works though im not sure how well.do these old balers have expensive parts being jd. or should i keep looking?



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graydw1

11-15-2005 04:24:46




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to TimS, 11-14-2005 08:26:13  
I had the same problem as you about 3 years ago. Took it to the dealer atleast 10 times before I figured out that it was the tucker fingers, to much slop to adjust them properly. I took door bushing from a 1991 GM truck, the bronze ones with a shoulder, just because I had some laying around, and made them fit in the tucker finger arm. This tightened up the assembly and I could adjust them properly. Since then it only misses bales when the string changes to a new roll and then only sometimes.

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dairyman

11-14-2005 20:30:15




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to TimS, 11-14-2005 08:26:13  
those tucker fingers are the source of your problem, I use 24t and it had the same problem as you described and adjusting the tucker fingers was the solution to the problem. I used a similar repair to what you are thinking of doing and it seemed to work well. this past summer it did not give me any problems. hope this helps you.



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WyoDave

11-14-2005 11:59:53




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to TimS, 11-14-2005 08:26:13  
Since it sounds like you've been having trouble with the tucker fingers it is possible most of your problem could be that looseness. With time those parts do wear out and have to be replaced. They can run with a lot of slop as long as you can get them adjusted right. If you're having trouble adjusting the tucker fingers than I'd think about replacing/rebuilding them. I've always just replaced them, but if you've got time and energy enough I'm sure you can develop a satisfactory way to rebuild them.
David

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TimS

11-14-2005 12:08:55




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to WyoDave, 11-14-2005 11:59:53  
Well we had one side that would tie perfectly, the other would be fine for 15 bales, then would miss 3 in a row. I have the manual and had spent a couple summers learning how to adjust everything, but never thought about the tucker fingers...like I said in my first post, the side that didn't tie well had the tucker finger pivot set about 1/4 inch farther towards the front of the baler ( and was set just right according to the manual ). I just happened to notice the slop in those rods, I will probably get the part number and find out how much a couple replacements would be.

Thanks for the response!

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WyoDave

11-14-2005 12:17:24




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to TimS, 11-14-2005 12:08:55  
Tim, I've never spent much time on a 14t, so I can't tell you for sure if it'll help. We baled just over 110,000 bales last summer and even with relatively new balers with that number of bales you're going to have knotter trouble and the best way to learn about them is experience. The only other thing I can tell you is when they quit tying it can be about anything. The knotters look complicated and very precise, but you'll find out they aren't as intimidating as they look. When your baler would break bales would it attempt to tie a knot? Leave a knot in the end over the bale or in the other end of the twine? If it was leaving a knot in the end over the bale I would think possibly tucker fingers. If the knot was on the other end of the twine I would guess that isn't your problem.
David

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TimS

11-15-2005 05:34:02




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to WyoDave, 11-14-2005 12:17:24  
Well mostly what it would do was form the knot IN the needle instead of around it. I looked in my manual and checked what it said, but there was one more picture that I kept not noticing, finally noticed it and it showed the problem I was having and said to check the tucker fingers...

Hopefully adjusting the one on that side and either putting a bushing in to take out the slop or getting new pushrods will take care of it for next year.

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Myrl (PA)

11-16-2005 01:34:44




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 Re: jd 14t slop in tucker fingers...? in reply to TimS, 11-15-2005 05:34:02  
Automotive door hinge pin bushings work well for that sometimes but if you need new ones I probably have a few here. Some stuff from deere is priced way to high for these old balers.



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