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Panhandle Randa

08-08-2003 04:58:13




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I have a combine that I use to harvest wheat. I understand how it works in wheat, but I'm amazed that the same machine could harvest crops so different like corn.

Here are my questions. Do the corn stalks go through the combine? Or, does the "header" somehow take the ears off the stalks and only send them through the machine. What happens to the stalks? I'm talking about a traditional cylinder/walker machine. I know the rotaries are different.

Thanks. I was just curious and I know many corn people check this forum.

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ChrisL

08-09-2003 21:24:54




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 Re: Question on Combining Corn in reply to Panhandle Randall, 08-08-2003 04:58:13  
just for your info - the NEW NEW IDEA in corn harvesting is just like wheat - mow it off with a sickle head and draper it into the center of the combine - run it through the combine - then leave the residue in a row so you can round or better yet big square bale the residue and send it to a feedlot..

advantageges and disadvantages:

running all the stalks and materials through the combine makes a lot of material running through a machine - takes a good size machine or u have to go slow.....

the draper head can takes rows of any spacing - can even go across rows if u want, and doesn't take the power t\o run that a regular corn head does.....

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JMS/MN

08-09-2003 16:06:22




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 Re: Question on Combining Corn in reply to Panhandle Randall, 08-08-2003 04:58:13  
A corn head is much like the front end of a corn picker- it removes the ears from the stalks. The snapping rolls are underneath the stripper plates, and pull the stalks down, while the stripper plates stop the ears, pulling them from the stalks, and the gathering chains convey the ears to the cross auger which puts everything into the front end of the combine, where the threshing takes place. Some stalk pieces get removed in the process, and are also conveyed into the combine. You hope to minimize the amount of stalks going in, to make the separating process work better. Rotaries work the same- the head is the same, only the separation process is different.

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Rick

08-08-2003 06:34:31




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 Re: Question on Combining Corn in reply to Panhandle Randall, 08-08-2003 04:58:13  
Yes stalks do go thru the machine and are carried out the back on top of the walkers. The amount of stalks all depends on how tight the deck plates are set on the cornhead. The tighter they are set the more stalk residue will go thru machine.



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Paul Butler

08-08-2003 09:56:54




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 Re: Re: Question on Combining Corn in reply to Rick, 08-08-2003 06:34:31  
You really don't want any more stalk residue going thorough than necessary. I think some of the newer machines even allow you to adjust the plates on the cornhead on the fly.

Smaller ears, set them close, in a field with bigger ears open the plates a bit and you get less trash.

(I assume you know there is no sickle on a cornhead so most of the stalk is pushed down and under the combine).

Corn is actually one of the easiest crops to harvest. Get you cylinder speed set right and concave spaced properly and it should roll those kernels right off the cob.

If you want some really interesting reading (really) check out the combine setting books by the late Ray Steuckle. Some may not agree with all of his methods but you can learn a ton just by reading his books.

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Panhandle Randall

08-09-2003 05:32:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Question on Combining Corn in reply to Paul Butler, 08-08-2003 09:56:54  
Thanks gentlemmen. I know what a cornhead looks like, but not how it works. I assume the "deck plates" are devices inside the cornhead that strip off the ears and, in the process, parts of the stalks. The information you have provided is interesting. I will do some more reading on the subject, also.



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dd

08-09-2003 06:31:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Question on Combining Corn in reply to Panhandle Randall, 08-09-2003 05:32:04  
Right under the deck plates is a pair of stalk rollers that rotate against each other so that when a stalk enters them the stalk is quickly jerked down and the ear is stripped off when it hits the deck plate. In a perfect world nothing but the ear and husks would enter the combine. The condition of the stalk though is what determines how much of it goes through. If the stalk is rotted, or has insect damage lots of times the upper part of the stalk will break off and go through the combine.

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