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Not A Combine...But Older!

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Threshing In IL

02-28-2008 10:58:17




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As I am looking out across the snow covered field, I thought I might be nice to see some green grass and some of our toys. I know that this is not a combine, but it does fall under the harvestor category. This is my Red River Special Thresher at a local show. I bought this machine when I was 18 and only knew that it was a threshing machine! With the help of a few older neighbors, they helped me get it up and going, and we have used it every year for the past 11 years. Does anybody else on here have a threshing machine, if so lets see it and tell us its story!

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NW MO Poppers

02-29-2008 09:20:22




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 Re: Not A Combine...But Older! in reply to Threshing In IL, 02-28-2008 10:58:17  
Very nice picture!! Thanks for showing it off!! As far as I'm concerned, it belongs on here as much as the combines! Thanks!! Josh



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Nutsaboutcombines

02-29-2008 21:27:27




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 Re: Not A Combine...But Older! in reply to NW MO Poppers, 02-29-2008 09:20:22  
Of course it does, Josh. After all, thresher-separators are not only related to, but actually came not long after the first combines. To qualify this, all stages of harvesting, threshing and winnowing [cleaning] grains were not only done separately, but often up to weeks to months apart. Most don't realize that it was the combined harvester-thresher [aka "combine"] which came to be, as of 1836, even being pre-dated by other non-patentable, non-working prototypes and experimentals.

The success of the thresher-separator [aka thresher OR separator], was contingent on the relative "failure" of the harvester-thresher in the Middle West. Yes, it is true the first combine actually WORKED fair and square. The problem was total lack of technology to store the combine's fresh, high-moisture grain. As a result, the combine was exiled to the west to develop and grow west of the Rockies.

Meanwhile, back on the farm, some enterprising farmers and manufacturers began to pick up on at least part of the combine's conventions--combining just the threshing, separating and winnowing; without the whole harvesting part. VOILA! Now the grain can be mechanically reaped, stored to dry and STILL be mechanically processed!

The bad news was when the harvester-thresher finally did return to the Middle West and even the Great Plains, it was met with great opposition by those adherent to the "old ways" when all along, the combined harvester-thresher had once been there first!

True, most individual threshers may be older than most of the combines still with us today, but since thresher-separators were still manufactured into the 1950's by diversified machinery companies, it's easy to see that there are even SPC's such as the M-H 21's, 27's and even 90's which may be older yet, than some of the "modern" thresher-separators.

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old fashioned farmer

02-29-2008 05:57:35




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 Re: Not A Combine...But Older! in reply to Threshing In IL, 02-28-2008 10:58:17  
Howdy,

No picture to post as I don't have one on my pc. But the family still has my great granddad's Huber thresher. Can't remember right off hand what the size is. He bought it brand new and ran it with a 15-30 McCormick Deering tractor. Threshed the wheat on his place and then travelled all over the county doing custom work. Was one of only a handful in the area with a thresher so he kept very busy. The thresher sits in our old tobacco barn waiting the day for me to restore it. The neatest thing about it is the stenciling on the back side of the machine. Has C.O. Trefz in bold black and yellow letters. Pretty darn neat. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

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john deere harvesters

02-28-2008 15:13:24




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 Re: Not A Combine...But Older! in reply to Threshing In IL, 02-28-2008 10:58:17  
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I've got a John Deere 28 inch threshing machine that I bought in North Dakota right before christmas. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. I also have a John Deere grain binder and a oilver stationary baler.



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russ hamm

02-28-2008 15:07:16




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 Re: Not A Combine...But Older! in reply to Threshing In IL, 02-28-2008 10:58:17  
Very nice setup, and a great picture. I have a 22"x 36" McCormick- Deering, but no pictures. Been tucked away in the shed for some time. We have plenty of others at the club's show, so they get used first. Maybe this year.



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cadet trooper

02-28-2008 15:02:59




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 Re: Not A Combine...But Older! in reply to Threshing In IL, 02-28-2008 10:58:17  
Hey TIL as far as I'm concerned it belongs on here after all if it wasn't for them this site wouldn't be here and for that matter we wouldn't either because we might still be threshing wheat with a canvas and starving to death. Nice post and nice pics and you too Lance. CT



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71ford100

02-28-2008 11:12:38




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 Re: Not A Combine...But Older! in reply to Threshing In IL, 02-28-2008 10:58:17  
Here is my MMTC thresher:

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