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Allan In NE

11-16-2007 14:24:46




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This is the baffle (or what's left of it) that hangs on the 5/16" rod directly above and towards the rear of the raddle chain. It's directly below the center of the bin.

Why in the heck is it now shaped in a darned semi-circle? What caused that?

The more I dig into this thing, the more I think a fencepost was run thru 'er. Both the separater beater and the thresher beater show signs of something completely foreign, big and bad making the trip. :>(

Good news tho. Did find three fairly good and usable belts, both raddle chain and floor "look" okay. Charge pump on the hydro "feels" good too. :>)

Steering pump totally freewheels; hope that is because there is no oil in the system. :>(

Allan

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Ken L.

11-18-2007 13:23:34




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to Allan In NE, 11-16-2007 14:24:46  
I had a straight F that looked like that once. When the stone door would get knocked open, I would just let it run and clean out before shutting it down. Still can't figure out how this happened but, one time the stone door opened, I was letting it clean out and there was a loud bang. I hit the clutch just as I heard another loud bang. I opened the side panels and found that both beaters had paddles bent, the raddle chain had two broken slats and the cutain was bent almost as bad as yours. On top of the chaffer there was a stone laying looking pretty well beat up. It was about 8" in diameter and about 4" thick. How it got back there with the stone door open I have no clue.

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Allan In NE

11-19-2007 04:08:25




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to Ken L., 11-18-2007 13:23:34  
Never thought of that. Sure makes sense tho.

Those beater paddles are at least 1/8" stock and it would take something fairly substantial to do that kind of damage.

Pulled the thresher beater baffle yesterday and this is what I found. Not a single mark on the cylinder or either door either.

Then, it finally hits me. With over 11K separater hours, it's a wonder the machine looks as good as it does. Probably on the third set of bars and concaves. :>)

Allan

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Allan In NE

11-17-2007 05:51:19




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to Allan In NE, 11-16-2007 14:24:46  
Aw, Ha! So, that's the reason!

Big Boys tell me that it was bent (U-shaped) due to over-use and the excessive material volume.

Guess you're upposed to take the darned thing clear out of the machine in corn.

Didn't know that part. :>)

Allan



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bradley martin

11-16-2007 17:39:56




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to Allan In NE, 11-16-2007 14:24:46  
Spike tooth split less beans than rasp bars...and yes, we run cylinder speeds about as low as they'll go in good harvest conditions and just a bit faster when the conditons are tough. Gleaners are considered good beaners because the beater slows down with the cylinder, whereas most other makes the beater runs a constant speed irregardless of the cylinder speed.



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bradley martin

11-16-2007 17:19:03




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to Allan In NE, 11-16-2007 14:24:46  
Allan; Around these parts , all the Gleaners and other conventionals doing dry beans run spike tooth cylinders and concaves. If you are going do cron or standing grain, they then switch cylinders and concave doors.



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Allan In NE

11-16-2007 17:28:40




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to bradley martin, 11-16-2007 17:19:03  
Wonder why they do that? Are they fighting weed infestations? Nightshade/Pigweeds?

Normally, you just "look" at a bean pod and they'll shell out. That's why the cylinder speed has to be kept clear down at around 160 rpm to keep from cracking the beans.

A very, very fragile crop.

Allan



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cadet trooper

11-16-2007 17:02:53




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to Allan In NE, 11-16-2007 14:24:46  
Looks like someone threw a concrete block through it.



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Allan In NE

11-16-2007 17:23:54




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to cadet trooper, 11-16-2007 17:02:53  
Something really happened.

Half the vanes on both the thresher beater and that separater beater have deep, 2" V-gouges on the leading edges. Just like a big piece of angle iron went thru it length wise.

On these damaged vanes, there are three different spots across it's width. They still turn okay, but boy! Are they ever floppy and crooked. :>)

Give a dollar to know what happened; just cannot figure out why that free-swinging supposed-to-be-straight baffle was "cupped" and bent 'forward' at it's bottom edge the way it was. :>)

Allan

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bradley martin

11-16-2007 14:46:26




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to Allan In NE, 11-16-2007 14:24:46  
I'm not a Gleaner man, Allan, but it kind of looks like your machine has been moonlighting as a rock crusher!!..... .You are in dry bean country, aren"t you?



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Allan In NE

11-16-2007 14:52:15




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 Re: Okay, You F2 Guys in reply to bradley martin, 11-16-2007 14:46:26  
Yes Sir,

Dry beans are really bad on 'em, especially the bearings and corn is no picnic, but this is the first time I've seen the inside of one look this bad. Ol' gal has had a hard, rough life.

Out here, if you find a "wheat only" machine, it's considered the same as "new". :>)

Allan



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