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Allan In NE

11-06-2007 06:15:16




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Okay,

Since I'm on this combine kick, can ya tell me this.

Allis says to charge the header accululator with nitrogen. Okay fine.

But, air is what? 78% nitrogen anyway? How come I can't just fill the thing with my air compressor?

Allan




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cadet trooper

11-08-2007 16:33:46




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 Re: More Gleaner Questions in reply to Allan In NE, 11-06-2007 06:15:16  
Allen, I don't know why you had to do that in other words what happened to your pressure? You've got a leak somewhere your bladder must have a leak (no pun intended) or you must have a chamber leak. It's kind of like your water pump pressure tank.CT



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Paul from MI

11-07-2007 04:26:12




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 Re: More Gleaner Questions in reply to Allan In NE, 11-06-2007 06:15:16  
If this is an accumulator on a hydraulic system, which it sounds like it is, you should be able to get it charged at a good welding supply co. When we built special machines with accumulators on the hydraulics, the machine could not be shipped with a pressurized accumulator(D.O.T. rule I guess). Our customer would get the accumulator charged on site. We used a local welding supply to charged them for testing. Some old White plows used them on the trip instead of springs, maybe a dealer would know where they charged those. Good luck, enjoy reading your comments.
Paul

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shawnspeed3

11-06-2007 13:18:39




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 Re: More Gleaner Questions in reply to Allan In NE, 11-06-2007 06:15:16  
Be careful if you go to a tire place for your Nitrogen...I don't belive they have the oil pumped version, as they aren't running air tools off it like the nascar guys...that do use oil pumped nitrogen....also the fittings on the tank are different,an oxygen regulator will not fit an oil pumped Nitrogen tank, If i remember right it is a larger right handed deal...but don't hold me to that ...it's been 10 yrs since I was slingn' lug nuts...Shawn

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paul

11-06-2007 06:25:29




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 Re: More Gleaner Questions in reply to Allan In NE, 11-06-2007 06:15:16  
Nitrogen is a very stable, uniform, doesn't absorb things/ won't absorb into things type of gas.

The 23% of stuff in your air tank tends to like water vapor, reacts differently to temperature changes, water & O2 make rust, etc.

Now, you & I use air for our tires, while Nascar fellas use nitrogen for their tires - it's just much more stable & predictable. Some enterprising mechanics are trying to sell you & me nitrogen for our tires, actually, but that is a $$$$ deal looking for suckers.

For a hyd accumulator, the nitrogen is probably the way to go, where you don't want water vapor, temp sensitivity, oxygen which promotes rust, etc.

--->Paul

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Allan In NE

11-06-2007 06:37:26




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 Re: More Gleaner Questions in reply to paul, 11-06-2007 06:25:29  
Aw Ha!

That's why the book says, "Oil pumped Nitrogen", I'll bet.

Thanks Paul!

Allan



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glr62

11-06-2007 17:09:49




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 Re: More Gleaner Questions in reply to Allan In NE, 11-06-2007 06:37:26  
also need more pressure that air compressor will handle. You are trying to make a shock absorber for the hydralic lift which is in the 1800 psi range.



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