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Gleaner E 20 corn head

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CraiginMO

05-02-2007 21:13:21




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I was told that Gleaner experimented with a 20" corn head. Anyone know for sure? Anyone seen on or have one they would sell? Craig




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Scott(MO)

05-06-2007 20:53:06




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to CraiginMO, 05-02-2007 21:13:21  
Craig, Big Orange mentioned below about Clyde Hight who was a corn innovator in the 60's-70's. I found the article on him and posted a picture of him and his Gleaner with 20" rows in the implement photos gallery here on YTMAG. I couldn't get it to post here, but maybe one of you smarter fellows can get it out of there and post it over here. Thanks.

Scott



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cadet trooper

05-04-2007 18:16:06




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to CraiginMO, 05-02-2007 21:13:21  
I'll tell you a secret guys AC made the A series corn head an adjustable corn head with the gearboxes sliding on spline drives an a toolbar frame I'm not sure but the A 30" cornheads would go down to 20" rows that's why they had extra square holes punched in the sheet metal. This would be all A series 2 through 12 row the first black cornheads low profile 30" thru 40" wide.



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JMS/MN

05-05-2007 19:41:30




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to cadet trooper, 05-04-2007 18:16:06  
I won't tell you a secret- I'll tell you the truth. 'A' series heads, known as "Black Heads", were adjustable two inches wider or narrower than how they came from the factory. Yes, all row units were the same, sans the sheet metal and drive shafts, but to switch from wide to narrow rows, or the opposite, you will need to switch sheet metal, as well as the drives connecting the row units. Drive shafts connecting the row heads are different lengths, according to row width. SM was punched to widen or narrow 2 inches, not wide to narrow. Wide row SM would not interchange with narrow row SM. Frames from wide to narrow, and different row combinations, were different, and the connecting shafts between row units, as well as mounting and drive packages were different. Just check the parts manual for the black heads, you'll find different numbers for all of these parts. "A" series heads had no gearboxes like the earlier 'orange' heads- just sprockets and chains. CT, months ago you posted that you were a dealer years ago----wouldn't a dealer know the pertinent details, rather than mislead a novice into buying something that would not fit his needs?

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sd pete

05-06-2007 13:31:56




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to JMS/MN, 05-05-2007 19:41:30  
i changed my 4 row lm black head from 38 to 36 and it is a major undertaking.



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JMS/MN

05-06-2007 23:11:40




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to sd pete , 05-06-2007 13:31:56  
Exactly- no simple job. Unbolting/rebolting sheetmetal is the simple part. Below that, the row units need to be moved and different connecting drive shafts need to be installed and coupled. And that is just a two inch move- going from wide to narrow row is a whole different frame/drive/auger/SM, etc. changeover- way beyond sliding on a splined shaft!



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sd pete

05-06-2007 23:21:41




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to JMS/MN, 05-06-2007 23:11:40  
oh yeah no way can you go from 38inch down to 30 with the same head.



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tngleaner

05-03-2007 10:23:41




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to CraiginMO, 05-02-2007 21:13:21  
i am pretty sure they made an E420



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JMS/MN

05-03-2007 06:39:23




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to CraiginMO, 05-02-2007 21:13:21  
Gleaner made the 820 head in 1966, for the CII. Cost $7550, about half as much as the combine. In the mid-60s they made heads with widths of 20, 30, 35, 38, and 40 inches.



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sd pete

05-03-2007 06:07:25




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 Re: Gleaner E 20 corn head in reply to CraiginMO, 05-02-2007 21:13:21  
Many years ago i seen an old gleaner 20" inch corn head. If i remember right it was for a C 2. It looked like the old c heads anyway.



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billkoob1

05-03-2007 04:25:00




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 Not experimental. in reply to CraiginMO, 05-02-2007 21:13:21  
Ac built a lot of 20" corn heads.



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big orange

05-03-2007 19:13:30




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 Re: Not experimental. in reply to billkoob1, 05-03-2007 04:25:00  
Bill, you remember a fellow named Clyde Hyde from the late 60's early 70's? Was from Illinois and used 20" gleaner heads.



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billkoob1

05-07-2007 15:20:00




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 Re: Not experimental. in reply to big orange, 05-03-2007 19:13:30  
Yep, remember him well - we outselves run 12-20" planter & cultivator and harvested with a cii with 6-20" head in 1966-67-68.



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Scott(MO)

05-05-2007 19:58:51




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 Re: Not experimental. in reply to big orange, 05-03-2007 19:13:30  
Big Orange, I don't know about Clyde Hyde, but I remember reading in Succesful Farming from October of 1973 about a Clyde Hight who was a corn innovator from Illinois who started using 20" rows and a Gleaner combine back in 1965 (I'm assuming this is the same guy. When you mentioned the name, it rang a bell and I went and found the magazine. I wish I could post pictures because they have a picture of his gleaner from 1965. Anyone out there got email that I can send this picture to? If so,send me an email. scotgros@usmo.com

Scott

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JMS/MN

05-06-2007 18:20:22




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 Re: Not experimental. in reply to Scott(MO), 05-05-2007 19:58:51  
I think you'll find the same picture in Wendel's book, pg. 79, Mowequa, Ill. I also remember the story in SF Magazine. Yes, his name was Clyde Hight. Worked with AC in developing the 20 inch head.



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big orange

05-06-2007 04:10:18




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 Re: Not experimental. in reply to Scott(MO), 05-05-2007 19:58:51  
Scott that is the fellow I meant.Just couldn't rememger the exact last name, age does funny things.



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The Scottenator

05-05-2007 21:33:22




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 Re: Not experimental. in reply to Scott(MO), 05-05-2007 19:58:51  
Ok Scott we get it your name is Scott Scott LOL.
I just could not resist!



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Scott(MO)

05-06-2007 13:09:34




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 Re: Not experimental. in reply to The Scottenator, 05-05-2007 21:33:22  
OOps! My bad!



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