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Nutsaboutcombines

02-02-2007 18:19:52




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I had made a post a while back, in response to what TDS said about the combine demolition derbies. Several here posted replies to that, for which I was also grateful. However, when I finally DID have the chance to come on here and read it [I do not have daily internet access], I asked all who had made those replies, to please go over to the other combine talk forum site, and then post the same, again. Only one person did.

What"s wrong here? I thought the majority of folks here at least, are willing to stand up for these machines and protest such wanton death and destruction!!!

Just because a reply comes a few days later than the rest, does not make it a dead issue. Our combines are in serious trouble, NOW and we must all work together to at least save as many as we can--before they disappear.

It"s very true. You don"t know what you"ve miseed, until it"s really GONE!

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dad's88

02-04-2007 16:14:04




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 Hey did you see the combine demo on Speed Channel in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 02-02-2007 18:19:52  
Hey guys! Did you see the neat combine demo derby Saturday night on Speed Channel? It was great!!! SORRY, I had to throw that one out there. JUST KIDDING. I can see both sides of this issue. My current combine is a White 8700 and it is one of the last of those built. It has the WFE decals and is a 1983 model I think. It is a much nicer combine to use then the one I had before it, an Oliver 7300. I had the Oliver for about 17 years and it was generally a very reliable machine. I tried to take care of it, not run it into anything, kept it washed, waxed occasionally etc. and it was a very nice appearing combine for its age. However it was getting to the point where it was apporaching 5000 hours and things were just wearing out on it, the skin was getting thin! Even though this machine had nice bright paint on it and looked great reliability was becomming an issue. You can only get so much out of a machine in production agriculture before it becomes a liability. On more than one occasion the combine demo derby sounded kind of good.... like 1 or 2 in the morning with the cylinder drive chain wrapped around the idler bracket which had been torn from the side of the machine. It finally got to the point that the Ol' 7300 needed to be retired. Nice as this combine still looked I do not have the shed space to store 2 combines and you all know storing a nice combine outside just spoils the paint not to mention all the mechanicals etc. So I kept it inside until I found a buyer who appreciates it and will keep it inside and use it on about 20 acres or so a year, which it is plenty good for. But if no one came forward or wanted it, what would I have done with it? My shed space is packed to the gills and I'm storing stuff in places not really designed for machinery storage already. The point I'm trying to make is so many of these combines are worn down to nothing, like a stubby number 2 pencil. Most end up in a salvage yard as organ donors, which is a useful purpose becuase if it wasn't for these we wouldn't have a source for parts for those we want to keep. Some die so that others may live. The combine demo derbys I've seen don't use these antique machines you guys all know and love. They have usually been 6600 or 7700 Deeres or 510 - 750 MF and the like. There are oodles and oodles of them out there and you can sell only so many straw walker hoods anyway. So what's the harm? Many times after the demo derby the combines still go to the salvage yard. In the end all will be recycled except for the ones that end up in the hands of collectors, irregaurdless of the path they take. I have often wished some of our family tractors were still around while on the other hand I have scrapped someone elses family tractor. If all of the machinery that was ever made was just retired to the fence row I'm not sure if there would be any room left to farm. There sure has been some really nice machinery that has been scrapped though and that is an awful shame. Several years ago I started a small outdoor museum of mostly Oliver but other brands as well. The machines there are ones that were already parked and rusty, but complete. Many were destined for the scrap yard and just moments away from a date with the gas axe when I bought them at an auction. I drug them home, hooked them together and made displays out of them. They will never be restored or even see the inside of a shed for that matter. But they won't have to live in fear of some farm sale bully cutting them to pieces either. To me they stand tall and proud as a testament to American agriculture. Like I said, I see both sides of the issue. The bottom line is unless you are actively trying to save some yourself it's hard to cast any stones. New sheds cost money and there's only so much of it to go around. In a perfect world there would be room for all of it.

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Mark

02-04-2007 10:45:57




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 02-02-2007 18:19:52  
It can be said about most anything you think should be saved.

Years ago when I was a boy, there were still a few steam locomotives sitting around the railyards. I thought they were the most fantastic machines I had ever looked upon. Massive works of art. But..they were useless to their owners. Their time had come and gone and wasn't coming back. They were dinosaurs of a bygone era. Nobody wanted them for their intended purpose and so, they were junk..so much scrap iron awaiting the smelters. I couldn't understand it then..but I do now. Museums are full of steam locomotives and there they sit, silent forever, but saved so people can see what they looked like. There was no way or no use in saving them all. Same with tractors and combines and cars and cement mixers and toasters. They served their purpose, were used up and replaced by something better. IF you have a need or use for something, buy it. If not, let it go. What's the use of having something just for the sake of owning it? There it sits...doing nothing and taking up space. That's what museums are for. If you feel compelled to save a machine and enjoy using it, get one, fix it up and enjoy it. Let the rest go. I remember going to demo derbys when I was a kid and watching better cars than I drove being smashed to bits. I laugh about it now.

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Jon Hagen

02-03-2007 13:22:44




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 02-02-2007 18:19:52  
The only difference between a prized classic combine and a tree row full of rusting junk,is the number that survive in any kind of presentable/useable condition. I agree, save a little worn or weathered example in a shed and preserve it to enjoy. The rest of the junk that is worn and rusted out, with many thousands of that model were built.let the usually intact drivetrain under a worn out seperator have one final gasp of life in a combine derby before going to the recycler. If this was not done, a great deal of our steel would be tied up in mountains of unuasble and unwanted scrap. You cannot and should not save every one, only the best remaining examples.

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Nutsaboutcombines

02-05-2007 16:54:53




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to Jon Hagen, 02-03-2007 13:22:44  
I agree John. If only the running and fully restorable ones [only a very small percentage of those do still remain] were saved, the world would still not become overcrowded or overpopulated by combines!



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1206SWMO

02-03-2007 08:22:28




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 02-02-2007 18:19:52  
I've found out that you arent going to change the minds of any of those that like combine demolition derbies.You express your displeasure with them and they will just want to destroy more of them.

Its up to us guys that like old combines to try and save as many as possible.There will never be a ton of old combine collectors as they are too hard to haul and take too much room to store.We all need to try and recruit some new combine collectors.If we could get all the tractor collectors to each just save one old combine,it would sure help a bunch.

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Michael Price

02-02-2007 21:08:57




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 02-02-2007 18:19:52  
I Dont have a combine and would really like to have one but they are hard to find here for a fair price or they have all been scraped. Being I dont have a combine I dont visit this part of the forums much. I have seen the combine demolition derbies and I have to say it did bother me. Ive seen some nice machines get destroyed that I could only dream of having. They should use school buses instead.

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Butch(OH)

02-03-2007 02:37:01




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to Michael Price, 02-02-2007 21:08:57  
SCHOOL BUSES??!!! WHY THEY ARE ARE GOING TO BE GONE SOON TOO!!!

Just kidding, dont take NAC too seriously, his handle says it all.



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71ford100

02-02-2007 19:35:46




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 02-02-2007 18:19:52  
What is the other combine website?



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tfuchs453IH

02-02-2007 19:39:25




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 Re: Really disappointed...... in reply to 71ford100, 02-02-2007 19:35:46  
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