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Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked!

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1206SWMO

04-02-2006 06:52:18

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This nice running 3490 MM sold for $25 on 4-1-06 at Reading,KS and will be junked.What a shame!!

Also selling was a 410 MF for $60 and a 750 MF for $90.They will meet the same fate.

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farmscrap

05-04-2006 10:17:13

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Sometimes it just cant be Re:Nice 3490 MM Sells Fo in reply to 1206SWMO, 04-02-2006 06:52:18

The scrapping seems to happen in cycles. Back in the 30s my Dad and his brother had amassed a pile of iron and steam tractors and engines of all sorts that covered 10 acres on their Dads Nebraska farm. All the neighbors around thought they were crazy. My Dad told me that they had many steam tractors that run, because they just fired them up and drove them home. It was in the dust bowl days and at the height of the depression. Their farm wasn�t in much better shape and was on the foreclosure list to. But they kept it going by trapping for skins and hunting for food. They started taking in the junk and any metal they could get. The bank heard about them taking the metal and got in touch with to clean the farms that were foreclosed on to get the old stuff of them as even then steamers were obsolete then. They even got a running big old iron wheeled White gasoline truck off one of the farms which they used to haul iron with. If the old steamers didn't run or seemed to be unsafe to fire thy dismantled them and hauled them in pieces on the old White to the thier farm. As the pile got bigger and bigger, all the people around thought they were nuts, as metal was so cheap then it wasn't worth the time cost or trouble to save it.
But after a couple of years of making this pile, metal was going up. Then a guy came thuough and stopped at the local city with a train and he was asking around for any one that had scrap to sell, well the locals quickly pointed to my Dad and his brother,s pile. He bought the whole 10 acres of their engines and the like, he then hired them to haul to the train where it was loaded. Dad said they hauled with the old White and drove the tractors that would run. On the last load they put the old truck on. The guy hired them to go on the train with them to scout and haul scrap all over the midwest both Dad and his brother had a job that paid great wages of $4.00 per day and room and board on the trains living car. Well you know they paid off the old homestead only just before it got taken too and it is still in the family my cousin has it how. By then most of the neighbors had either lost their farms or were going to. What seemed nuts at the time become their savoir. Before my Dad died he always talked about what if they could have saved the steamers. You know what they are worth now. So saving old stuff sometimes just isn't an preservation issue it becomes an economic one. When Dad left the train the old White went to scrap with it.

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Nutsaboutcombines

04-03-2006 08:26:14

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to 1206SWMO, 04-02-2006 06:52:18

Why does stuff like this have to keep happening?!! Is it not possible for you to contact the auctioneer to locate just who bought these old machines? If so, many will still rather get their scrap iron money from another buyer, rather than go to the trouble and expense of cutting up one of these big things, even when scrap metal is so valuable.

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fred lysgaard

04-06-2006 05:47:18

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 04-03-2006 08:26:14

this guy john that owns leroy iron at leroy mn borrows julious hayek from cresco iowa money to go to farm auctions and buy old machinery and iron i had to give 150.00 for an oliver recutter at a sale at stewartville last nov a guy red nold paid suposedly from what he said 16,000 for 2acres of machinery mh combines with corn heads st wheel rakes 2 oliver pickers w shellers and other old machinery and midwest auto from st charles bought lot of good machinery and sheared it and trucked it to baraboo wis my friend was told by one of the guys they get 225 per ton to haul it there he stopped at there yard about an umbrella bracket on an old f20 tractor but it was gone and seen a rear plow wheel and offered 5.00 and the guy wouldn,t sell it they paid 4,000 for a 1280 planter and a 6 row planterand a few lite pieces of farm machinery and an oliver picker with a sheller some guy was trying to buy the picker after the sale. i got a few sales coming up that i hope to go to and buy something .fred

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Roger in Ks

04-03-2006 20:37:33

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 04-03-2006 08:26:14

In Kansas we have a couple of junkers that are out to prove they are in charge of an auction. I was told one of them bought this combine. You more than likely could not have out bid him. I was at a sale 6 weeks ago when this junker bought a 4 x 14's Moline drag plow that was missing a lot of parts for $275.00. I own several MM 4 bottom plows and think they weigh in around 1,000 pounds. If my math is correct this makes junk iron around $550.00 a ton - unprepared. I would cut up a lot of stuff if I could find someone paying that much. Several years ago I bid on a horse drawn Caulkins field cultivator. I had to give up at $375.00. This junker walked up to me afterwards and said - when are you going to learn you can't out bid me of this stuff? My reply was - when are you going to learn that every time you bid against me you go home with less money than you came with? I was certain that a fight would break out but he backed down. I buy all I can but some of these guys are out to prove something, not sure what but they sure bid things up just to get a load of junk iron.

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tim[in]

04-04-2006 14:20:48

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to Roger in Ks, 04-03-2006 20:37:33

i would bid on everything he is interested in just to drive up the price. sooner or later he will get tired of working for nothing. with the price of cutting gases plus the cost of fuel to haul this stuff. unless he has his own junk yard where he hauls it to a steel mill, he is going to lose out. boy could i have fun there. but these auctioneers love those boys.

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1206SWMO

04-03-2006 09:26:08

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 04-03-2006 08:26:14

Nuts,I was at the sale and watched bidder #29(junker) buy it for $25.I just dont have the time,money,shed room,way to haul the heavy ones,etc.I wish I could save them all but cant.

It was 150 miles away.If it had been only been 75 miles I may have considered buying it and driving it home just to save it.

The only reason I went to the sale was that I had a #22 MH corn head to pick up fairly close by..It goes on one of my 35 MH combines.

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Nutsaboutcombines

04-04-2006 08:07:23

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to 1206SWMO, 04-03-2006 09:26:08

1206, what"s really so sad about this sale, is the fact that all this Minn-Moline machinery was amassed by a fellow collector who may have passed away and his next of kin has showed absolutely no interest in finding a good home for it, nor donated any to a local or state museum.

As for the idiots who think they can control any auction, and especially want to bully others who "dare" to bid against them, they should be socked in the face as hard as we can throw a punch! Nobody better ever come up to me and tell me not to bid against anyone for anything! GRRRR!!!!I have no use for mental midgets who only think our combines should be killed off like vermin. Those are the kind of fools also responsible for demolition derbies of combines.

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dhermesc

05-04-2006 08:45:09

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to Nutsaboutcombines, 04-04-2006 08:07:23

All you have to bid. If somebody wants to prove they can spend money faster then me I'll let them, and I'll even help them. Nothing like a "business man" showing his stupidity to prove who's in charge to make an auctioneer and a seller happy. A season or two of that and you wan't have to worry about him being at actions any more.

Several times I've run stuff up that I had no intention of buying when I went to to an aution - but if its selling cheap enough I'll make room for it and take it home. The guy may have had to pay $400 for that combine if I'd been at Reading that weekend but he wouldn't have had it given to him for $25.

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Nutsaboutcombines

05-04-2006 10:48:38

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to dhermesc, 05-04-2006 08:45:09

I totally agree! I sure wish others would have at least ran the dickens out of the price just to give him something to think about. The worst that could happen, is to actually win the bid and go home with a really nice seed combine for up to $1,500 or so. That is STILL a bargain! On the other hand, the idiot so quick on the draw of the blue knife, will soon discover he paid 3-4x the actual scrap value of the machine. Such losses are sure to run some out of business--fast!

Really, it's just as appalling that no one else there even cared to run up the joker's bid.

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fred lysgaard

04-02-2006 23:24:32

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to 1206SWMO, 04-02-2006 06:52:18

what auction company had the auctioni was wondering if they had a web site and were there any older farm trucks sold if so do you happen to know how they sold . i like to collect old trucks and machinery there is nothing left around here to collect.fred

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1206SWMO

04-03-2006 06:16:07

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to fred lysgaard, 04-02-2006 23:24:32

Fred, They had already had one sale to sell the late model farm machinery-etc.This sale was just for old tractors,parts,plows,etc.There were no old trucks on it.

I drive all over Kansas and still see lots of old trucks,tractors,farm machinery,combines,etc just sitting around.

Sale

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04-02-2006 19:30:17

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to 1206SWMO, 04-02-2006 06:52:18

What year model is that combine Blaine? Tom

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1206SWMO

04-03-2006 06:09:22

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to CF, 04-02-2006 19:30:17

Tom,they made the 3490 MM from 1963-65.Its the same as a 430 Oliver.

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Superpicker

04-05-2006 20:00:27

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Re: Nice 3490 MM Sells For $25-Will Be Junked! in reply to 1206SWMO, 04-03-2006 06:09:22

Here is a 430 Oliver in this nice sale that someone ought to check out in Wisconsin. Looks like a lot of good equipment in this White / Ollie lineup.

http://www.schmidtauctionservice.com/041506int.htm

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