Harold H -- Cotton Picker Questions

I was directing this to Harold because of a thread over a year ago (mostly between him and Jess in CA) in which he summarized the basics of most IH picker models. I wanted to confirm some of what he posted and get his latest information.

Was the 782 the last IH model and 1822 the first CaseIH?

I'll try and re-scratch my memory but I don't guarantee every detail is right. The first production cotton picker was the M-10 in about 46. It was high drum only and I think was only offered on M although the cotton picker H may have been available then, but I have never seen anything saying it was. The M-11 was the first low drum and it was also available in high drum. It was for the H or M. The H was under powered for high drums so very few high drums were sold on H's, at least I have never seen one in the Mississippi Delta. I think the M-11 high drum was only built one year and the M-11 low drum was built for two or three years. The M-12 was introduced in , I think, 1948 and was high drum only and for the M only. The M-14 low drum was introduced a little later to replace the low drum M-11 and was for the H or M. All of these pickers had the cast aluminum header top. The 114/120 low & high drum pickers were introduced in 1954 and had a fabricated steel header rather than the cast aluminum header. The 114 low drum was for the H or M and the 120 high drum was for the M only, or later model tractors of the same frame. There was also a low drum picker available for the C and later tractors of that same size but I have never seen one and don't know the model. The 120 high drum was basicly the last model of new one row pickers we ever sold because the 214/220 two row was introduced in 1957 and everybody was then trading for two rows and there were plenty of late model one rows on the market. Actually the 114/120 progressed to the 114A/120A, then to 314/320, then to 500/502. The 214/220 progressed to the 214A/220A, then 414/420, then 416/422, then 616/622, and finally 782 high & low drums. Actually the 416/422 production overlaped the 616/622 production by a couple of years because some farmers still wanted the symplicity of the 416/422 design and did not need the additional capacity.The 622 is actually the last model I am really famalier with and have hands on experience with.

Do you have a picker you are wanting to restore for a operating display? Did you receive my address and phone number that I e-mailed you Friday?

Harold H

I did not get your email from Friday. Maybe some snag on it getting throuth the YT "send email" function if that is the way you sent it. If you would, please try sending one directly to me at jim.becker@verizon.net

One other question you axked that I failed to answer is, The high drum M-12, 120, and 120A "could" be mounted on a H, if you could find a H with cotton picker housings and bull gears, which I have never seen, but was not recommended or approved because of the insufficient power. Basicly anything that would mount on a M would mount on a H with proper brackets, but in many cases was not recommended for several reasons. All of the low drum pickers could be mounted on H or M sized tractors, except pickers designed for C framed tractors.

Harold H

By the way, I stopped after covering the 782 and didn't include the 1822 because it looked like the 782 was the last sold under the IH name.