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John M

08-27-2005 18:40:31

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Heres the pic of the Falls riding mower I posted a question on a couple of weeks or so ago.I spend today rebuilding the carb,new points,condensor and plug,cleaned up some of the grease, and got it running.BUT it doesnt run all that great.It will idle fine sometimes,and will start up easy enough,but at high idle it spits and sputters and will die if I dont choke it fast and then go to idle.Any thing I may have missed? Also any info I can find on the mower itself would be appreciated as well!Sorry for the size, dont know why it did that.Also had just cleaned the grease off of it when I took the pic,so thats water all over it.

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Jay (ND)

08-28-2005 11:13:28

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-27-2005 18:40:31

On the carb bowl, there is a needle screw w/ a spring on it, and that screws into the nut that holds down the bowl. Remove the nut, remove the needle from it - On the outside threads of the nut there are 2 holes, one about the size of a ballpoint on a pen, the other is very small. The small one is plugged. I use an acetlyne (sp?) tip cleaner to clean it. A wire from a wire tag works good too. Blow it out with your own breath to make sure the gunk is gone. Put the nut back in, tighten. Put the needle in (don't put it in the nut first, you may smash the tip) all the way finger tight, back it back out 1 1/2 turns.

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John M

08-28-2005 14:45:55

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to Jay (ND), 08-28-2005 11:13:28

Did that,but still aint right! What it does now is: I can get it idle fine still,I can get the rpms up on it but it still sputters and all,but doesnt die like it was.If I let it sit at high idle it will smooth out but has this romp to it and you cna visbly see the idle stop mechanism move to compnesate and then it smooths back out for a few seconds then romps again and will run that way.Adjusting either screw makes little or no difference in this idle position, but at idle if you move either one either way it responds by either flooding out,if you go too much,or cutting off.now,it takes quite a bit of adjustment for it to do anything at idle.

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Jay (ND)

08-29-2005 02:40:54

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-28-2005 14:45:55

Oops - sorry - I thought I recognized that engine - i was wrong. On this carb, that surging is very common. Is your throttle shaft wobbly at all? It don't take much on that one. Also, you might try to replace the nozzle snorkel in there.

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John M

08-28-2005 14:48:23

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-28-2005 14:45:55

This is the carb I have. Thsi one isnt mine,I found this pic on ebay.

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Jay Phillips

08-28-2005 19:31:52

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-28-2005 14:48:23

John,

I have a few mowers with this type of carb....and it's been a couple years since I've had to perform a rebuild, but I'll try to remember as much as I can.

There are a few different adjustments on this particular carb. The "Idle" should be easy to figure out...the more you screw it in, the higher the RPM's.

The needle and seat adjustment is located at the bottom below the bowl. Screw in (by hand, or lightly with a screwdriver) until bottomed out then 1-1/2 turns out. This is only a starting point to get you in the ballpark. Adjust this screw while at full throttle until finding optimum horsepower. (Then I like to screw it out 1/8 turn to keep it from running on the lean side.)

The third adjustment is located on top of the carb, and is a used to fine tune the throttle responce....or midrange.

I hope that this will help you figure out your problems.....and I'm sorry if I given any false information. Like I said, it's been a while.

Good luck, Jay

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Dannie

08-28-2005 04:27:21

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-27-2005 18:40:31

Looks like the old Huffy.You may need to replace diaphragm in carburator.Good Luck

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John M

08-28-2005 06:41:08

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to Dannie, 08-28-2005 04:27:21

There is no diaphram on this carb, it has a float in it.The kit I got for the carb had the neddle,jets gaskets, adjusting screws, basically everything except the float, which I also replaced. I did find the serail number stciker on it and has something like falls Maunfatcuring or something,I wil have to look agagin, but give a model number and serial number, both start with R. Thanks!

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Jay Phillips

08-28-2005 07:25:53

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-28-2005 06:41:08

John,

I also see the "Huffy" resemblance that Dannie mentioned. But it also reminds me of an old MTD.

Although I'm pretty sure that "Falls" manufactured their own mowers in Genoa, Illinois.

Either way, you have a nice rider that appears to be complete. I've been to many antique tractor show....and haven't seen another like it.

Jay

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John M

08-28-2005 09:29:56

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to Jay Phillips, 08-28-2005 07:25:53

I looked at the tag again and it does read Falls Fanufacturing Inc. Genoa Ill. followed by the serial and model number. The only peices that I know are missing are the "blade gaurds" which were simply tow pieces of curved and welded metal that bolted where the foot rest are.These things werent all that safe. The guy I got it from, his Dad bought it new sometime in the 60s. Wish I could find a serial number list of some sort on it.

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Jay Phillips

08-28-2005 19:07:10

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-28-2005 09:29:56

John,

Yup....it does appear to be a late 60's model.

By the way, is there a woodgrain decal on the dash? If so, it would be another "Huffy" resemblance.

I own (2) Genoa / Falls (they were sold as both names).....and will be picking up my third tomorrow. All of mine are the smaller version (22" - 24" decks).

Jay

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John M

08-29-2005 03:37:45

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to Jay Phillips, 08-28-2005 19:07:10

Yep Woodgrain dash! Got a decal ob the Front that says Falls,kinda looks like the Ford logo!Steering wheel had glitter in in!Kinda flipped me out.

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Jay Phillips

08-29-2005 17:26:51

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Re: Pic of Falls Rider in reply to John M, 08-29-2005 03:37:45

Hmmmm.....maybe there was a time when some of the Falls riders were manufactured by Huffy.

Glitter molded into the steering wheel? The 60's....what a time to be alive! lol There were some really strange ideas back then that actually made it to production.

Jay

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