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Briggs 8hp engine has no spark

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andy b.

10-31-2004 20:12:15




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this engine is in a log splitter, but i'm sure the theory of operation is similar to many garden tractors. i'm no small engine expert. my log splitter died today and it appears to not be getting spark. it ran for a few minutes before it died, but this is the first time i've used it since last year. i cleaned the carb and the engine is definitely getting fuel. i pulled the pull-start assembly off to see if i could see anything strange with the coil. it looks kind of rusty. i am not sure what the gap should be between the coil and flywheel. also, there are three wires on the coil. one large one going to the spark plug. a small one with an eyelet on the end that goes to one of the coil mounting bolts. the third one goes down to the engine block behind the flywheel. it appears to have a small dab of RTV holding it into a hole in the block. is this correct, or am i missing something. what does this third wire do? the engine is a Model 190417, Type 3093.

i hooked the spark plug wire up to a spare plug and rested it on the cylinder head. when i pull the pull-start i don't see any spark jumping the plug gap. is this how i would test for a spark or is there a better way? do the coils have a habit of just dying?

thanks for any help,

andy b.

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JT

11-02-2004 07:05:51




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 Re: Briggs 8hp engine has no spark in reply to andy b., 10-31-2004 20:12:15  
Andy,
To fix this and to not have this problem on a yearly basis, go buy a part number 398811 coil or equiv. from your local Briggs dealer. This is a coil with the solid state module already in it, ready to bolt on and go to work. Briggs part should be about 40.00-$45.00.
Jim



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Bob

10-31-2004 21:59:59




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 Re: Briggs 8hp engine has no spark in reply to andy b., 10-31-2004 20:12:15  
The "wire down to the block" leads to the breaker points, which are cleverly hidden behind the flywheel, and are probably causing your "no spark" problem.

A little rust on the flywheel or coil will not "kill" the spark, but if there is enough rust so it is bridging the air gap between the flywheel and the coil, even for part of the flywheel's rotation, spark will definitely be affected.

I believe the recomended air gap is about .010".

After getting the rust brushed off of the flywheel and coil, a common business card used as a feeler gauge to set the coil air gap will get you close enough. (The idea is to have the gap as small as possible, yet have no actual contact between the coil and the flywheel, for the hottest spark.)

You probably will have to remove the flywheel, and clean or replace the points, though.

As an alternative, the points can be abandoned in place, the wire to them cut, and a Magnetron ignition kit from Briggs installed directly on the coil.

Also, Briggs and aftermarket suppliers have coils with the electronic unit built in, eliminating the need for points, also.

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andy b.

11-01-2004 09:56:10




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 Re: Briggs 8hp engine has no spark in reply to Bob, 10-31-2004 21:59:59  
Bob,

thanks for the info. i'll take another look at the engine tonight and see what i come up with.

andy b.



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