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John-Paul

04-27-2000 01:08:24




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After a flash of inspiration yesterday evening I drove the ASP around to a local tractor repairer.

His response to the mystery scraping noise was, and I quote...

"Kyl' ne pitää tuollaisia ääniä."

...earning him a well-deserved 800 ASP points!


J-P




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Oscar

04-27-2000 06:10:28




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 Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to John-Paul, 04-27-2000 01:08:24  
I gotta say I'm REALLY enjoying all these posts! J-P, keep it up! I'm sorry I missed out on it, 'cause I'm sure I would've been able to add some witty thoughts of my own on the various iassues you addressed!



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Brian

04-27-2000 02:45:09




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 Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to John-Paul, 04-27-2000 01:08:24  
John-Paul

Translation:

Don't worry. It's old age.

But what did he say about the tractor?

regards
Brian



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John-Paul

04-27-2000 03:14:50




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 Re: Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to Brian, 04-27-2000 02:45:09  
Hi Brian!

Just out of idle curiosity, how old would you guess I am?

About the tractor, he said that they all make that scraping noise. I can't quite get my head around the idea that they left the factory sounding like that though, but still, it's not a new tractor. I shall have a chance to drive a Super Major in a week or two, then perhaps I'll have a better perspective on the whole noise thing.
For now though, the scraping noise goes down to number 436 on my list of worries...

Cheers,

J-P

PS. To change the subject wildly, can you advise me on what exactly the different types of harrow are for? Should I put this on the implements board?

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Brian

04-27-2000 04:44:21




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 Re: Re: Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to John-Paul, 04-27-2000 03:14:50  
John-Paul,

1. Between 25 and 33.
2. Did you say if you had a transmission hand brake?
3. No they did not.
4. Super Major will possibly sound different. You may have a 1960 gearbox housing but your gearbox could still belong to the older tractor.

As to harrows, what do you want to do with them?
1. Chain Harrow - Grass fields to scatter dung and remove dead material.
2.Dutch Harrow - To break down ploughed work and produce a level finish.
3.Seed Harrow - Light.To cover newly planted seed.
4.Pitchpole Harrow - To collect dead material from seedbed and put it in heaps for removal.
5.Heavy Harrow - Made by local blacksmiths in sections with various straight and curved tines to produce seed bed.
6.Spring tined Harrow - A framework usually fitted to the linkage on a tractor and fitted with coil spring tines which vibrate as the harrow is pulled through the ground shattering the soil and forming a seed bed.
7.Power Harrow - PTO driven rotary harrow. Used to burn diesel and slow down tractor work rate. Also used to form pan at just below ploughing depth. Can produce seed bed as an afterthought.
(Please note tounge in cheek).

All the above can (of course) be pulled by Fordson Tractors Kim. :-)
regards
Brian

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John-Paul

04-27-2000 05:01:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to Brian, 04-27-2000 04:44:21  
1. 36 (Body), 8 (Mind)
2. No transmission handbrake (come to mention it, no hand brake of any sort).
3. Thought so.
4. Aha.

Harrows:
To prepare a seed bed. I have seen locally a type of harrow (Äes) which has discs with fingers, about the diameter of a spread hand. The fingers are like littel spade blades about 3" long and 1½" wide. It's very similar to the old horse-drawn harrow that was used here in the days before Fordson Majors(!) only about twice the size. What is it called in English?? I wondered if that might be better than a spring tyne harrow on my soil which is for the time being heavy clay.

Thanks,

J-P

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Brian

04-27-2000 08:19:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to John-Paul, 04-27-2000 05:01:12  
John-Paul,

to continue:
Disc Harrows - Discs on an axle set at an angle that slice the soil. Good on heavy land.
Ground driven rotary Harrow - Has blades mounted on axle like disc harrows but in shape of a cross. Has more of a chopping action than the disc harrow. Has a pulverising affect on the soil but needs to be worked at up to 8mph!!! (Has also pulverising affect on driver at that speed on the Major seat)!!!!
Does the harrow you have seen have the blades mounted on a disc that is mounted on bearings set at a slight angle to the soil surface and a rotation say from right to left as you sit on the seat rather than like a wheel. The action tends to stir the soil like a Lely Rottera.
regards
Brian
(All these implements work better behind a Fordson than any other tractor Kim).

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J-P

04-28-2000 01:17:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to Brian, 04-27-2000 08:19:13  
The kind of harrow (er... Fordson Harrow) that I have seen here is basically like an old single bed frame pulled sideways, with four axles arranged like the arms of an an X joining the corners to the centre. On each axle is a long tube which carries a row of discs with little spade blades on them. Actually they are more spade blade than disk so to speak, each disk is a kind of star with broad points. Anyway... The blades are perpendicular to the soil, but at an angle to the direction of travel.

Er... Name this harrow (for 200 Fordson ASP points!)


J-P

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Brian

04-28-2000 05:31:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to J-P, 04-28-2000 01:17:35  
John-Paul,
That is what is known as a rotary harrow. It does a good job when you can get up speed. They were made in this country by Bomford of Uttoxeter. I sold tractors for a few years in the heavy clay and silt of the Wisbech fens. The land, when ploughed was left in hugh lumps and took some breaking down. These harrows would work well on the smaller lumps but it was immpossible to drive the tractor at the speed needed to break down the large lumps. A sales rep from Bomfords came down to demonstrate against a spike toothed Rotovator. He ended up wrecking the machine on the large clods but after the rotovator had broken them down slightly the rotary harrow worked well.
Regards
Brian
All demostrations were behind Fordson Tractors as that was what I was selling.

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John-Paul

04-28-2000 07:07:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 800 quiz points to local tractor mechanic in reply to Brian, 04-28-2000 05:31:11  
Aha, sounds like one of these might be useful for my vegetable garden then. When it's dry like it is at the moment the soil tends to break up into concretey lumps. I've been meaning to work some organic material into it for a while and now finally thanks to Harald and Hemingway we have the ..er.. "stuff" we need. Tonight (or some other time over the long weekend) we will try ploughing with a horse-plough behind the FORDSON ASP. Tried this trick last year, pulling the horse-plough with our 4wd, but I have to admit I nearly got myself catapaulted into the next county, and the attempt was abandoned in a cloud of blue (Empire Blue perhaps?) clutch-smoke...

Cheers again, and a happy "Vappu" (Traditional Finnish Drinking ceremony, happens on 1st May) to you all...

J-P

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