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John in N.MN

04-03-2008 09:33:12




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I am having a heck of a time getting this off. I want to change the oil so I start out fresh with my "new" tractor. Any suggestions? I could put heat from a soldering tank on it. Is there another way to drain it?
As an aside I did find the engine drain for the antifreeze and that is done. So thanks to all.

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john in N.MN

04-04-2008 12:24:02




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to John in N.MN, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
Well, I got it loose. Actually a smaller pipe wrench and a six foot pipe coupled with holding it there with a jack did the trick. I proceeded to do the "loosened the plug" dance. Thanks all. See my new post for my new problem.



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MarkB_MI

04-03-2008 19:02:09




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to John in N.MN, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
Been there. Pipe wrench is first choice. If you can't grab it with a pipe wrench, you may be able to loosen it up with a hammer and a sharp chisel.

Definitely buy a new plug before you take the old one out. Otherwise you'll be repeating the process next year.



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Tallguy

04-03-2008 16:40:44




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to John in N.MN, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
John, My "new" 1960 model 641 had a similar problem, couldn't get the plug out. I soaked it down with Silikroil (great stuff by the way) waited for a day, used an 18 adjustable wrench and it came out--not easily, but out. BTW--Silikroil is made by a company named Kano. This stuff blows WD40 and the like out of the water.



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MarkB_MI

04-03-2008 19:07:58




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to Tallguy, 04-03-2008 16:40:44  
Help me to understand, Tallguy:

As I recall, the threads on the oil drain plug are inboard of the gasket that seals between the oil pan and the plug. How is it that any penetrating oil can get past the gasket and get to the threads? Never mind that the threads are pretty well soaked in engine oil.



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Tallguy

04-04-2008 04:53:41




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to MarkB_MI, 04-03-2008 19:07:58  
Silikroil is a silicon based penetrant and it creeps into tight areas. All I can tell you is that I used the same procedure the day before to no avail. After the Silikroil it came out, slow but out.



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soundguy

04-03-2008 20:28:23




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to MarkB_MI, 04-03-2008 19:07:58  
I agree.. oil sump threads probably won't benefit from a penetrant.. the only thing I can think of is the penetrant got intot he gasket and perhaps at least made it slippery??

soundguy



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John in N.MN

04-03-2008 13:10:49




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to John in N.MN, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
Thank each of you. I will try the pipe wrench, pipe and jack tomorrow. So the saga continues.



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soundguy

04-03-2008 13:03:25




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to John in N.MN, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
Ditto what the others said.

Use a pipe wrench if it is rounded. once you get it off, either repalce.. or take a grinder or file and file new flats back into it to a standard size.. or weld a big hex nut tot he nub o fthe plug.. anything you can get a good wrench on will help.

Soundguy



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sparepartsTN

04-03-2008 11:39:47




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to John in N.MN, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
John,

Reminds me of when I changed fluids in my "new" 1962 Ford 4000. I don"t think the previous owners changed them too often, a 2ft pipe wrench with a 3ft pipe on it wouldn"t budge the oil drain plug. I had to remove the pan full of oil, clamp the pan upside down to the steel body of the dump truck, then used the torch and the pipe wrench/pipe combo to get it out. A little difficult heating the cast plug enough without overheating the pan, I had to gently straighten the pan around the hole after the plug was out.

I hope yours isn"t as bad, and you will probably need a new plug, mine didn"t survive the extraction operation (the screen inside didn"t like all the heat).

Warren

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Larry NCKS

04-03-2008 11:34:06




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to Balatonm, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
you talkin bout the oil drain plug? What's the issue? Corners rounded? Wrench slipping? Or just not a big nuff wrench? I'd try a big pipe wrench before I'd heat it. Maybe tap on the plug itself with a hammer. Don't be too gentle either!



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Wayne IA

04-03-2008 10:49:12




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 Re: Oil pan bolt on 860 in reply to John in N.MN, 04-03-2008 09:33:12  
Sounds like you have one of those raskels with the corners rounded off.Put a pipe wrench on what is left of the plug, then set a jack under the plug to hold the pipe wrench in place, now put a long pipe on the pipe wrench and lossen the plug. It should have a screen on it.Better get a new plug to put back.



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