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Next Commander 6000 project . . .weld the neck back on??????

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Larry NCKS

03-20-2008 17:43:40




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Next Commander 6000 problem. Previous owner put an M&W turbo on this tractor. To faciilitate that modification the fuel tank had to be moved back towards the dash about 8 inches. Instead of cutting a new filler hole in the hood, he sawed the filler neck off. I'm putting her back to stock and found the sawed off filler neck under the seat. Wondering if I can weld the neck back together with a torch and some brazing rod.
What precautions might one take if he were to attempt this? TIA

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Larry NCKS

03-21-2008 17:46:48




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 Re: Next Commander 6000 project . . .weld the neck back o... in reply to Mathias NY, 03-20-2008 17:43:40  
Hey thanks guys. Got er brazed back together today!!! Worked good and don't you try this at home, but I did it on the tractor with fuel in the tank.



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Dean

03-21-2008 03:31:56




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 Re: Next Commander 6000 project . . .weld the neck back o... in reply to Larry NCKS, 03-20-2008 17:43:40  
Larry:

The previous posters have given you good advice.

If you do not have access to dry ice, many old timers simply adapted a hose from the exhaust of a car or other gasoline engine, put the hose in the tank and allowed the engine to run while welding.

Since you will be working on the filler neck, this might not be practical in your case.

Dean



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john_bud

03-20-2008 19:58:24




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 Re: Next Commander 6000 project . . .weld the neck back o... in reply to Larry NCKS, 03-20-2008 17:43:40  
I'd clean as outlined and then put a pound or 2 of dry ice in the tank before starting. The CO2 will displace the oxygen and vastly reduce the chance of explosion.

I think silver solder was used on them originally. If you can tack on some tabs and solder it in decent, you can then over coat with a gas tank repair patch to make it tight.

jb



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Larry NCKS

03-20-2008 19:47:06




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 Re: Next Commander 6000 project . . .weld the neck back o... in reply to Ken Crisman, 03-20-2008 17:43:40  
yes. it's a diesel. Tank was not cut. Just sliced through the neck ¼ inch above tank.



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ErnieDD

03-20-2008 18:05:33




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 Re: Next Commander 6000 project . . .weld the neck back o... in reply to Larry NCKS, 03-20-2008 17:43:40  
Commendable. Was the tank cut or just the neck? If the tank was cut on stretched metal it will take a pretty good craftsman to put it back on. You are talking turbo, so I assume diesel, not gas.

Diesel, wash the tank with soap and water (inside). Go to it. It is the vapors that explode, diesel has a flash point well above ambient temperatures, and thus no vapors. Now heat a puddle of oil to make oil vapors and you have your explosive condition, hence wash the tank out. Steam cleaning would be better.

Always did admire the 6000 after watching one pull at the county fair. Front end about 2 feet in the air, the operator tapped the brakes just so to keep it on target. He worked the throttle and shift gently to search out all the traction there was. He had spent some time in the seat of that tractor to know how much he could ask, and the machine delivered. 35 years ago.

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