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How much weight should I put on the 850 rear end??

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AJG

05-21-2001 19:59:06

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Planning to put a Ford 730 on my 850. In thinking about weight I was thinking of putting water and antifreeze (non-toxic!) in the 13.6-28 tires. The weight of a CaCl filled 13.6-28 tire is 525 lbs;I don't know exactly how much water and antifreeze would weigh but I'm guess about half of the CaCl fill.
Then I was thinking of also adding rear wheel weights and wonder if I should use the heavy duty weights, which would add 1160 lbs in addition to the loaded wheels; or should I add the regular duty weights, which would add 800 lbs to the loaded wheels. Or should I skip loading the wheels with water/antifreeze and just go with the heavy weights? Which set up would be the best for using the loader for light to medium loads; I don't anticipate using it for heavy loads such as large buckets of sand or for excavating.

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Tony Jacobs

05-22-2001 06:11:45

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Re: How much weight should I put on the 850 rear end?? in reply to AJG, 05-21-2001 19:59:06

Hi AJ, First of all in order for the loader to be effective the tractor has to be counterweighted with as much as the loader can lift, Which with a 730 loader will about 2000lbs. So load the tires with antifreeze and water(That's what I use, except I collect it from the local salvage yards, so it's free) and use the heavy duty weights. If you do any heavy work you may also need a cement block weight for the three point hitch, around 1000lbs. My 62 841 4x4 has the tires filled 95%, heavy duty wheel weights, and the 1000lb concrete weight and some times I still get the rear wheels off the ground. As for your question about the manuals, What is the model number on the tag of the loader ? 19-337 , 19-338 or something similar to that . The early 730 loaders had a small half moon shaped bar on top of the grille guard to match the shape of the 801/4000 sheet metal and the later ones were more square like the 3 cyl. series sheet metal . Thanks Tony Jacobs

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AJG

05-22-2001 07:57:51

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Re: Re: How much weight should I put on the 850 rear end?? in reply to Tony Jacobs , 05-22-2001 06:11:45

Tony,
Thanks for the response. I'll go with the wheel loading and the heavy wheel weights.

As to the loader, it is a Ford 19-529, Serial # CL 02I83. The top of the grill guard is a sturdy horizontal piece, not small, that has slightly rounded corners where it joins the outboard verticals, definitely not half moon, i.e., in an arc; 8 or 10 inches below it is another horizontal from the bottom of which several short verticals descend 8 to 10 inches to another very heavy duty horizontal from which four long descending verticals drop and curve under to the attach point under the front of the tractor. Is that enough of a description? I could post a picture somewhere if it would help. What vintage do you think the loader is, or, which set of manuals should I get, the pre-68 or the post-68?
Thanks much for the help.
AJ

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Tony Jacobs

05-22-2001 19:44:30

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Re: Re: Re: How much weight should I put on the 850 rear end?? in reply to AJG, 05-22-2001 07:57:51

Hi AJ, Your loader is a 1969 730 loader with Float position , with means the lever you use to lift and lower the arms(not tilt the bucket)will snap into a detent position when you push it foward , it is good for plowing snow or loading light materials where you do not want to dig into the surface you are working on . Thanks Tony Jacobs

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AJG

05-23-2001 08:23:40

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Re: Re: Re: Re: How much weight should I put on the 850 rear end?? in reply to Tony Jacobs , 05-22-2001 19:44:30

Thanks Tony. How in the world do you know all that stuff?? I'm sure glad you do!

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Jhill

05-22-2001 05:57:45

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Re: How much weight should I put on the 850 rear end?? in reply to AJG, 05-21-2001 19:59:06

I have a 3000 with a 772 loader which is about the same combination. I have loaded rear tires and it works fine. If I want to do heavier work I put on my rear blade which adds more weight and the counter weight effect takes some of the weight off the front wheels.

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