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16535

12-28-2004 04:32:26




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Hi,

I am looking for a tractor to cut my 4 acre paddock and do a light bit of loading the criteria is:

must have an independent P.T.O
must be pre 1980
must be idealy smaller than a Ford 7000

Can you suggest any tractors that would fall into these catagorys?

Regards.




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Bob Semrau

01-01-2005 20:09:25




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
It sounds like you want an Oliver 550.



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Rod F.

12-30-2004 16:36:53




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
For what it's worth, get a 3 cylinder 4000 or a 4600. They were made from 1965-1975, and the 4600 until 1981. They all had independant PTO's, either with the 8 speed's or the Select-O-Speed. The SOS was discontinued in '75. The 4000 SU is good, but it has the light front end which I wouldn't want for loader work. Again, a plain jane 4000, and they're tough as nails.

Rod



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paul

12-28-2004 13:47:14




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
Do you want 'INDEPENDENT' pto, or 'LIVE' pto?

The difference is very slight, both work well, but there is a difference and you should clear that up first.

Unfortunately to get true INDEPENDENT pto, you will end up with the SoS tranny, and _that_ is a whole big can of worms to stay away from unless you can do your own deep internal mechanics! :) When the SoS tranny works they are a joy to use, but when they break, they can quickly cost more to have repaired than what the whole tractor cost you.

I would think you would do just as well with a 2-stage 'LIVE' pto for your uses, and that will open up a whole lot more & better tractor options to you.

--->Paul

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cockshuttguy

12-28-2004 12:07:57




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
Ford 4000 would be a good choice.



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BigDiesel

12-28-2004 07:54:00




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
I have what you need, a FORD 445 , 3 Cyl. diesel tractor, with heavy duty loader ,8 speed, P/S and IPTO, $4900.



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Anthony

12-28-2004 07:51:37




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
Look for a 4600 or 4600SU. These can be had pre 1980. If you can find a nice SU it will be the same dimensions as the smaller models like a 3600 but you will have the extra power.



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john in la

12-28-2004 05:51:14




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
Just thinking this over I realize this may come out wrong so please excuse me if this sounds bad but here goes..... ..... ..... ..... .....

Why are you stuck on this Independent PTO????
You do realize that live PTO is just as good for running a brush cutter.
Where did you come up with this smaller than a 7000????
You could plow a hundred acres with a tractor that size.

Like I told you before the only thing with Independent PTO is a SOS trans or a 8 speed 5000. A 5000 is almost 70 HP and is still to big for light work and cutting 4 acres.

So that leaves you with a SOS trans. That would be a 671/681/2000 all about 30-35 Hp. Then there is the 3000 about 36 hp 871/881/4000 about 45 HP.

I personally do not like the SOS because parts are hard to find and they are just not for me. (Every thing I own is standard shift. Even the wife's car)

Now if you can live with live PTO you can open your search to include the 660/661/860/861 all with a five speed and some of the 8 speed 2000/3000/4000's (The 8 speed comes both ways. Live and not live PTO)

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RickB

12-28-2004 15:30:54




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to john in la, 12-28-2004 05:51:14  
There are many choices of Fords prior to 1980 with IPTO. 4000, 4000SU, 4100, 4600, 4600SU, 515, 532, 535, 540, 4400, 4500, 340, 420, 445. Some of these are obscure industrial derivatives, but all have independent PTO and gear drive transmissions, either exclusively or as an option.



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jhill

12-28-2004 05:36:16




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
Other good choices would be a 2000 or 3000. They have acouple advantages over 600,800. Power steering is quite common and 8 speed transmissions on most so more choices for a tiller etc.



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Dave H (NY)

12-28-2004 05:25:24




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to 16535, 12-28-2004 04:32:26  
You will probably be happy with a 600 or 800 series tractor



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sotxbill

12-28-2004 14:43:55




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to Dave H (NY), 12-28-2004 05:25:24  
well.. thats a deep subject..

i have an AC 5030 with a loader, live pto, live hyd, 26 hp diesel, but small tractor,,,that would work. its a compact tractor but fully fuctional with a loader that picks up 800 lbs..

a super dextra with live pto, locking rear, 36hp diesel, that would work,

a 2600 gas, live pto, live hdy, 36 hp gas that would work.

a massey feruson 135 diesel, live pto, live hyd, 37 hp that would work.

an international 384 diesel live pto, hyd that would work..

a 4000 with independant pto.. yes independant pto, live hyd, 48 hp diesel that would work..

and a ford 7000, live hyd, ind pto, and 82 hp turbo diesel,,,with a newer 7610 engine, hinson cab with heater and ac that would be too big.. but you could have it..

how close are you to texas??

you could really use the smaller tractors for 4 acres.. i would look for a ford 2600 with live pto.. unless you gotta have a loader...

if your in snow country.. you might wanna go with gas for starting and using for snowplowing... the older gas tractors are favorites up there for clearing drives and such... where the diesels are favorites for summer work and heavy duty work but can be troublesome to start a 10 below...

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paul

12-28-2004 13:50:33




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 Re: What tractor? in reply to Dave H (NY), 12-28-2004 05:25:24  
Technically, they do not have independent pto, only 2-stage live. For me, real good - practically the same, but this guy is hooked on the word 'independent' so your good suggestions do not qualify.....

--->Paul



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