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external hydraulics on Ford 650??

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Lynn Kasdorf - Leesburg,

11-03-2003 17:17:45




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I had to buy some fence posts today, and as I was driving around the stock yard to pick them up, I noticed what looked like a Danuser auger frame sitting in the rust pile.

Since I have an ancient Danuser digger that is for the old Ford tractors and is NOT 3 point, and is extraordinarily hard to mount, but has a good gearbox, I've been planning to fabricate a 3 point arrangement for mine. Well, here it was!

I ended up getting it, and the gearbox (which has some problems) and a 9" auger. And glory be, it has the downforce hydraulic cylinder accessory!

See the link below for a pic. Mine is like this except for older/no guards, and some rust!

My question is, woudl it be reasonable to try to arrange for an external hydraulic takeoff an dvalve on my old Ford? Of course, that would also mean that the auger would live permanently on the tractor, unless I could get some sort of quick connect arrangement.

I don't know beans about what is possible with hydraulic setups.

For now, I've taken the cylinder off and replaced with an adjustable 3 point top link, so I can start using it tomorrow.

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paul

11-03-2003 22:06:31




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 Re: external hydraulics on Ford 650?? in reply to Lynn Kasdorf - Leesburg, , 11-03-2003 17:17:45  
It'll cost $600-800 to put the plate, lever, & 2 hoses with disconnects on your tractor. You wouldn't happen to have that under the seat already? You would use quick disconnects.

Now, I don't want to sound like the internet safety weenie, but:

You said some guards were missing, & you were going to stand by the auger & ratchet on it while it was running. Be aware, that whole pto linkage is very, very dangerous. It doesn't look it, but can catch a sleeve or thread in an instant &, if you are lucky, you will be standing there naked & bruised. Or far worse.

--->Paul

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Lynn Kasdorf - Leesburg,

11-05-2003 05:51:54




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 Re: Re: external hydraulics on Ford 650?? in reply to paul, 11-03-2003 22:06:31  
"You said some guards were missing, & you were going to stand by the auger & ratchet on it while it was running."

Actually, that was not my plan. I figured I'd just replace the hyd cylinder with an adjustable link- not adjust it while it was digging for heaven's sake!

After looking at the Danuser site, I see that I can just take off the cylinder, and it shoudl work just like the basic model. That is, there is no need for a link to replace the cylinder. The hydraulic down force woudl be nice at times, but not important.

Perhaps I'll someday acquire another tractor with external hydraulics that I can use this on. I'd love to see a picture of what the adaptor plate for my tractor woudl look like, though.

Yes, I know that pto's are dangerous. What I was saying is that the new Danuser units have essentially the same gearbox, but they have a metal shroud around the output shaft, and the drive shafts have a plastic tube around them. I can retrofit the plastic tube, and fashion a shroud around the output shaft.

Most of what I'll do with this will not involve anybody else, so I am less concerned about the danger of the spinning shafts. I'll be sitting in the tractor seat at all times.

But I was digging some fenceposts with my old rig the other day, and I had to keep shooing away the Mexican worker I had helping me (a rare situation)- he kept wanting to stand right next to the digger!

Thanks for the warning though.

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old

11-03-2003 18:25:17




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 Re: external hydraulics on Ford 650?? in reply to Lynn Kasdorf - Leesburg, , 11-03-2003 17:17:45  
They make a plate that goes on the top of the tranmission for external hydrolics and then with a couple of hoses and some quick disconnects your set



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