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raymond from tenn

07-30-2003 10:08:06

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Not really. He sitting right here. Question. Tractor is not steering well. Toe in does not look right to me. I remember someone telling me to jack the front end clear of the ground and measuring the distance from top of tires and then measuring the distance from bottom of tires. But I don't remember how much difference there is supposed to be. Help please.

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08-05-2003 14:45:14

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 Re: stupid friend with ford 5000 in reply to raymond from tenn, 07-30-2003 10:08:06  
If there is no power assist so the main reason to the difficult steering is a broken thrust bearing. So there are two bushings and a roller thrust bearing at each axle extension and the thrust bearings hold the front weight. So remove the steering arms and drop the pin out of the bushings (remove tire so you have easy work)

Use a good jack and firm supports.

Then take out the axle extension so you can turn it upside down you can see the bearing (or only some pieces of it ;-)

The bearing may be tight but with suitable hammering it will drop out. Then a lot of grease and assemble service parts. The old bearing may be a ball bearing but the new part was a roller bearing, seems better. If the bushings are very worn so you need more garage tools but it can surely done at the farm.

Simo S.
Ford 5000 m/69 and m/72

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07-30-2003 12:49:30

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 Re: stupid friend with ford 5000 in reply to raymond from tenn, 07-30-2003 10:08:06  
Raymond, Tell your "not so stupid friend", what Larry says is correct. Toe-in is the difference between the front and rear width measurement at the center line of the tire, as measured at the center of the hub heigth, sitting on the ground.

However while you have the opportunity to jack up the tractor(Chock and Block the rear tires, safety first.... :') , spin the tires to see if you have a bent rim, separated tire or rough bearings. Then grab a tire and work it back and forth up and down, check for loose bearings, bushings, pivot points, ball joints and radius arm ends. Check to see if it steers well jacked up, put a pry bar in the center pivot point and see if it has any slop.

Have fun, but be safe. HTH


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07-31-2003 16:55:12

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 Re: Re: stupid friend with ford 5000 in reply to ATW/WA, 07-30-2003 12:49:30  
Another simple task. Make sure one wheel points toward Dallas and the othern toward Ft. Worth

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Larry NCKS

07-30-2003 12:07:05

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 Re: stupid friend with ford 5000 in reply to raymond from tenn, 07-30-2003 10:08:06  
Toe in is a front to back measurement. Top to bottom would be camber. Camber is not adjustable on any tractors I know.

I'm not sure of the specs, but 1/8 to 1/4 narrower on the front should do it. To be accurate just in case of a bent wheel or something, you should measure once then rotate the wheels half way around and measure again. The measuring should be done with the tires on a solid level floor.

Check also to be sure all parts are tight and in good shape. HTH

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07-30-2003 16:44:56

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 Re: Re: stupid friend with ford 5000 in reply to Larry NCKS, 07-30-2003 12:07:05  
Just another question. When you say 1/8 to 1/4 narrower in front. Is that inches. THanks for the help.

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07-30-2003 18:43:30

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 Re: Re: Re: stupid friend with ford 5000 in reply to raymond, 07-30-2003 16:44:56  
wheeles pointed ahead


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