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Timing....now what?

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04-29-2003 08:12:11

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my 641 sat all winter...i just fixed the timing..runs good...but now cant get it into gear.....i had retimed the ignition because of stupid accident of droppin the condenser screw inside the distributor ....took off distributor and cleaned it out..retimed it...and finally got it to fire up...i noticed the distributor housing is in a different orienation than it origanly was..in order to time i set the timming mark on the flywheel ...i over shot the mark and turned it back with a screw driver.i turned in the opposite direction it normally turns..but it was only about a 1/2" turn..after several attempts it started but ran rough...turned the distributor till it ran smooth..but the distributor is not in the original postion......as a result of all this it now starts and idles fine but i cant get it into gear/out of neutral.......any connection to the timming?...i'm at loss...any ideas?....thanks, Joe

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04-29-2003 10:16:57

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 Re: timing....now what? in reply to Joe, 04-29-2003 08:12:11  
I would say that there is no connection between the 2 problems. Give more info on the new problem. Does the shifter move? How does the clutch pedal feel? Does it just grind when you try to put it in gear? Are you parked on a level surface?

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04-29-2003 10:44:18

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 Re: Re: timing....now what? in reply to Scottey841, 04-29-2003 10:16:57  
I agree. I don't see the connection. First, can you put it through the gears including neutral with the engine off. If so, the trans is OK. Assuming that the clutch linkage has not slipped off, or somehow lost its adjustment, I suspicion you have a stuck clutch. Get into the archives on this Baord and take a look at some creative approaches to get a clutch unstuck. My $.02

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04-29-2003 11:12:38

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 Re: Re: Re: timing....now what? in reply to TimK, 04-29-2003 10:44:18  
tim...thats exactly what i did....found the following solution:..start tractor and get it warmed up...i put it as low a throttle possible with out stalling...while pressing on clutch pedal and both brakes all togheter i popped into first gear...the tractor lurched forward slightley then stopped(engine still running)..clutch came lose and now running perfect....what a resource this site is...god must own a tractor...thanks

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04-29-2003 10:33:24

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 Re: Re: timing....now what? in reply to Scottey841, 04-29-2003 10:16:57  
yes the shifter moves normaly with engine shut off... it grindes when i try to put it in gear..clutch pedal feels same as when it ran fine...yes i'm parked on level surface....could it be the clucth has rusted from sitting outside all winter?...if so any trick getting it unstuck...or do i have to split the tractor to do so

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04-29-2003 11:06:49

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 Re: Re: Re: timing....now what? in reply to Joe, 04-29-2003 10:33:24  
I've heard of a couple of hairy ways to unstick a clutch. Never tried any of them myself (never had a stuck clutch). Here's a link to a past post from Zane explaining his favorite method.

I've also heard of jacking up the rear, starting the tractor in gear and while firmly holding the steering wheel, having someone push it off the jack.

Make sure your insurance is paid up first.

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