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Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids

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Kevin

03-22-2003 17:35:23




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Hi guys I just got a 6600 and was wondering if anyone had specs on the filters and what the numbers were to replace all of the filters ?
Also what type of hyd fluid do you use in the rear differintial?
I want to replace all the filters and change the oil What kind of engine oil do you use in the engine 15 w ?
Thanks
Kevin




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Bill

03-23-2003 09:56:44




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 Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to Kevin, 03-22-2003 17:35:23  
your 660 holds about
20 gals of fuel
13 quarts of coolant
58 quarts of hydralic fluid in the rearend and trans combined
4.6 pints of power steering (automatic trans fluid)
and i believe about 8 quarts of oil.
in that day it called for CD rated oil that has been superceeded by CI-4 rated oil today.
the power steering uses automatic trans fluid, the hydralic uses "TRACTOR rated hydralic fluids" not just hydralic fluid and meets the mc134d spec..

that model was prone to leak at the steering box but two o-rings would usually fix that problem...

bill

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Tom

03-23-2003 05:45:14




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 Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to Kevin, 03-22-2003 17:35:23  
You have made a good purchase. Now, in order to take care of it you need to purchase real Ford/New Holland manuals - - 3 of them. Operator Manual, Repair Manual, and Parts Manaul. You can get the REAL ones from your dealer. These manuals will give you all the lubricant spec numbers, and by useing the Repair Manual in combination with the Parts Manual you can do repairs properly, saving money in the long run. Consider the cost as part of your tractor purchase. Good Luck.

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kydavid

03-22-2003 20:33:41




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 Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to Kevin, 03-22-2003 17:35:23  
Hi Kevin,

I used to use Napa or Wix filters. Started ordering from my NH dealer (believe it or not they are cheaper, even getting them sent to me UPS). Used to use Quaker State HDX 30. Switched to Shell Rotella 15w40, but aim to switch back. Got a 5600 I bought new in 81, 6000 hrs and I adjusted the valves 3 years ago, clean as a whistle. Had the head off a 7600 this winter I rebuilt 2 yrs ago and (Rotella since OH) and didn't like what I saw. Only 400 hrs on oh. Had 11,000 on the tractor. Only used Coastal Multitrack in the transmissions/hydraulic/differential. Been using it since '91, running 4 Fords of that series and only had to replace 1 pump. This winter, and it was going when I bought it, 4 yrs ago.

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Bill

03-23-2003 07:22:10




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 Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to kydavid, 03-22-2003 20:33:41  
you bought an excellent tractor.. a common ford FL1 or pram PH8a will fit this model for oil changes.. use a diesel rated oil designed to handle the problem of soot that only diesel engines have. these diesel rated oils also have special additives to counter act the high acid that diesel oils get due to the sulpher in the diesel mixing with the mositure. this creates sulferic acid and does further damage to the engine and shortens the life. the worse thing you could do is run a 30w gas oil in you engine.
diesel oil standards are currently at "CI-4" so you can find either ch-4 or on the newer products ci-4 specs.. these oils are especially designed to handle the problems of turbo chargers as they will acellerate the oil contanmination. these newer oils are availible at sams, walmart, truckstops, tractor service center under the names of

delo 400 15w-40
rotella 15w-40
delvac 15w-40
mystic 20w-50
cat 15w-40
also in 5w-40 in all the above for artic climates at a much higher price.

and others.. theses oils are designed for extend oil changes as seen in the trucking industry and are designed to go 10,000 miles between changes and in some cases with the right filters, up to 35,000 miles between changes in exteame heavy duty applications. these are the same oils that cummins, detriot diesel, and cat are now getting a million miles out of their over the road industrial heavy duty engines..
DO NOT RUN gasolene oils in your tractors of any type. the diesel oils meet ALL gas specs and then go on to meet ALL the diesel specs.. the additives will allow safe extend drains while keeping the acids in check.. meaning you can safely change your oil every three years on tractors that dont get run very much. ALL of the owers manuels currently spec this type of diesel oil. especially new holland.

sorry, to harp but this is probably the most important thing you can do to make your tractor engine go for 10,000 hours, which is the new bench mark for good tractor engines, gas or diesel..

thiese oils sell for about $6.25 a gallon in most cases, the 5w-40s sell for about $18 a gallon.. do not run anything xx-30 due to higher cam wear. especially on the diesels where extreame cam designs are required to get proper performanced..

good luck bill

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kydavid

03-23-2003 10:04:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to Bill, 03-23-2003 07:22:10  
Bill,

I take it from your post you are implying that my recommendation for Kevin a viscosity rating of SAE 30 in the HDX grade is a gasoline oil. It is not, in fact the HDX and FCI grades from Quaker State and Pennzoil are both rated for diesel engines at the highest levels (CD-4, CH-4, CI-4). Ford also specified a single viscosity oil up through the T5 series engines for temperatures above 50 degrees F. In QS specifications HD is the regular gasline oil and HDX/FCI for diesel or gasoline.

My main objection to the multiviscosity oils in 4 cylinder diesels is the "observation" of inordinate amounts of sludge build up at low hours on internal lips of the block casting below the sleeves, and sludge deposits in the corner of head and lifter galleries. As far as higher cam wear, in 20 years I have never replaced a cam in a tractor engine or seen one that needed it, not saying it doesn't happen, but just haven't seen it. Put in a lot of pistons and a lot of crank kits.

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Bill

03-23-2003 07:20:21




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 Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to kydavid, 03-22-2003 20:33:41  
you bought an excellent tractor.. a common ford FL1 or pram PH8a will fit this model for oil changes.. use a diesel rated oil designed to handle the problem of soot that only diesel engines have. these diesel rated oils also have special additives to counter act the high acid that diesel oils get due to the sulpher in the diesel mixing with the mositure. this creates sulferic acid and does further damage to the engine and shortens the life. the worse thing you could do is run a 30w gas oil in you engine.
diesel oil standards are currently at "CI-4" so you can find either ch-4 or on the newer products ci-4 specs.. these oils are especially designed to handle the problems of turbo chargers as they will acellerate the oil contanmination. these newer oils are availible at sams, walmart, truckstops, tractor service center under the names of

delo 400 15w-40
rotella 15w-40
delvac 15w-40
mystic 20w-50
cat 15w-40
also in 5w-40 in all the above for artic climates at a much higher price.

and others.. theses oils are designed for extend oil changes as seen in the trucking industry and are designed to go 10,000 miles between changes and in some cases with the right filters, up to 35,000 miles between changes in exteame heavy duty applications. these are the same oils that cummins, detriot diesel, and cat are now getting a million miles out of their over the road industrial heavy duty engines..
DO NOT RUN gasolene oils in your tractors of any type. the diesel oils meet ALL gas specs and then go on to meet ALL the diesel specs.. the additives will allow safe extend drains while keeping the acids in check.. meaning you can safely change your oil every three years on tractors that dont get run very much. ALL of the owers manuels currently spec this type of diesel oil. especially new holland.

sorry, to harp but this is probably the most important thing you can do to make your tractor engine go for 10,000 hours, which is the new bench mark for good tractor engines, gas or diesel..

thiese oils sell for about $6.25 a gallon in most cases, the 5w-40s sell for about $18 a gallon.. do not run anything xx-30 due to higher cam wear. especially on the diesels where extreame cam designs are required to get proper performanced..

good luck bill

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Kevin

03-23-2003 04:25:47




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 Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to kydavid, 03-22-2003 20:33:41  
kydavid
Thanks for the input and glowing reviews of the blue machines . I have broke with tradition in the family and not purchased a red tractor,Your comments have assured me i made the right choice for a working machine . Atother question if i can do you know where I can get the spec sheet on what type of fluid and the quantity of them all I am trying to get an op man from ebay or the like Thanks I may be bugging you again for some more info Thanks again Kevin

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RickB.

03-23-2003 13:16:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to Kevin, 03-23-2003 04:25:47  
The recommendation for ATF in the power steering is currently incorrect, and probably always has been. Use New Holland 134D hydraulic oil or its equivalent in the power steering as well as the transmission/hydraulics/rear axle.



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klf

03-23-2003 15:24:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to RickB., 03-23-2003 13:16:24  
Maybe incorrect, but in NY, 134D doesn't work worth a darn. I have used ATF in the power steering for 30 years and no problems. It steers much better in cold weather. As far as engine oil, can't go wrong with 15W-40 Pennzoil or Rotella.



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RickB.

03-24-2003 15:03:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to klf, 03-23-2003 15:24:24  
I live in NY as well.



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HMiftari

06-05-2003 22:16:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to RickB., 03-24-2003 15:03:08  

I, too, just purchased a ford 6600 and it ran fine till I got it home. Now, it runs for about two minutes and it quits, have to wait about three minutes and it'll start again and do the same thing. Any suggestions? Thanks! HM



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kydavid

03-23-2003 06:01:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to Kevin, 03-23-2003 04:25:47  
Hi Kevin,

I think you made a great purchase. Don't know what you paid but this series is really great machines. Like I said earlier I've got 4 of them (and 2 "other brands"). Planning on replacing the "other brands" with Fords of this series, as funds allow.

Now,for your question. New Holland sells genuine manuels, on line, for a reasonable price. I'm going to try to email you the link, feel free to contact me any time.

DAB

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Kevin

03-23-2003 16:55:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to kydavid, 03-23-2003 06:01:09  
Gents Thanks a bunch for the info , I need to get the manuals ordered now !
The tractors is great and i look ofrward to using it a lot around the place Thanks again for the info KEvin



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Texadian

03-25-2003 14:41:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 6600 Filters/Fluids in reply to Kevin , 03-23-2003 16:55:01  
Kevin, Let me add my comments about the good choice you made. I have a 5000 tht's been totally troublefree. I think the Ford four cylinder family are the best tractors Ford ever built especially in the models from 5000 to 7710.
There are some very good recommendations on lubricants in the foreqoing posts but let me tell you story about filters. Years ago I repaired a 5600 that had an obvious lack-of-lube failure: seized rod bearings, socred mains and cam bushings; thankfully we found the cause, a PH8 filter had an anti-drainback valve plate come loose inside and blocked the oil flow through the filter. I thought the out-of-warranty customer was in luck and called Fram. They sent a rep. to investigate. He said, "sorry, the PH-8 is the wrong filter for the application." My customer said he bought filters by the case and used them in all his Ford vehicles. He couldn't even blame the store for selling him the wrong filter. I suspect the failed filter might not have bben changed as soon as it should have and I know Fram did specify a different filter for tractors at that time.
The 5600 and 6600, like most heavier four cylinder engines, has a gear driven balancer in the oil pan. I believe the engine has some rather small but sharp vibration.

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