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Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem!

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Mark Hendershot

11-28-2001 17:27:04




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Well I got to plow some SNOW today with my TO-30!! Once I asked about putting the muffler up, WELL I made up my mind when grading I got a small piece of bush on my muffler and was smelling smoke and looked all over for the sourse and below me was the smoke! Glad it had rained no fire!! Now while plowing snow the tractor was pulling so much snow that the muffler was stuck in the snow that was in front of the blade! So I guess I will put it up and solve both problem at the same time! I sure wish my chains were here I can only plow down hill or on the flat and we are having our first storm 12 ins. so far but I got it done! Get the chains Dec. 4th UPS said! I might haft to use the walk behind snow blower if this keeps up! But it was fun plowing and I will see if it is still fun in March! Mark H.

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drizler

11-29-2001 07:39:55




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 Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 11-28-2001 17:27:04  
You are lucky that you can pull enough snow to get to the muffler when its wet snow, and with no chains yet. Wait till you get the chains you will be in heaven. You could also load your tires with cheap antifreeze/ water mix or calcium chloride as well One thing you may have to do is angle the blade enough to let the snow slide off. Don't expect it to work if it is wet though and the tractor may slide sideways. Sometimes I ride along sliding it over the band with the wheels all the way to the lock in the other direction, sort of like landing a plane in a crosswind. It works. I have had both mufflers and won't get another upright. It caught on a low limb or branch last summer and busted the manifold as well as folding the muff back. Aside from that is the flimsy support. Last is the constant spewing of exhaust in my face. Its no fun hooking up and implement but at least its not all the time like the upright, yucch. Also no rain cap to let water in. I plowed for 2 years with the flat setup and dragged the thing in the snow constantly with no ill effect. If the fire thing bothers you just put a small household extinguisher in the front tool tray, its close enough. NO SNOW HERE IN NORTHERN NY YET, JUST A DUSTING WHICH IS FINE WITH ME.

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Mark Hendershot

11-29-2001 08:00:58




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 Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to drizler, 11-29-2001 07:39:55  
The lesser of two evels?? I won't get to pull so much when the ice forms unless I get my chains SOON! I have been using the turning brakes they work great in the SNOW!! You turn and touch the brake and ZIP the front end gos in a very tight circle!! It cuts the turn radius way down! And yes the snow comes up under the seat area when I am pulling it a ways that's when I am not just letting it go off to the side. We get lots of drifting in the 30 mile winds so I haft to get it way off and not get the piles high cause it will drift to the top of the pile in hours. In other words if the pile is 4 ft. the drift will be too! Learned that the first year here. Mark H.

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drizler

12-01-2001 08:55:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 11-29-2001 08:00:58  
I do 900+' of snow on a wooded sloped lane with a back blade usually with no trouble. Thats why I like to go forward in 2nd or 3rd with the TO-20 and preferably downhill if its nasty over 6" deep. Its a sort of science learning how to best tackle each type of snowfall. I often stant halfway down and pull it toward the bottom then later come in backwards to finish packing it. Theres no free lunch here you have to get off and change the angles at least a few times. Just make shure you wing it far back early on so you don't get built up and have to take it all the way up or down hill. That takes hours and luckily I only have one of those every 3 or so years. Thats why I bought the blower, to wing back whats packed or to do what is too heavy to deal with like massive drifts. Sometimes I end up using them both together, really sucks. There are some guys have front mounted blades from a pick up truck. They use the regular electric controls to do all the work.

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eno

11-29-2001 13:33:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 11-29-2001 08:00:58  
I hear you Mark, I've got a small hill beside our house and the wind whips across the lake in that direction. We had drifting 8 feet high, one year. Needless to say we didn't park in that spot the rest of that winter.
It sounds like you should invest in some snow fencing or a blower for the tractor. I know I'm very pleased with mine. I had a V blower when I first bought my TO35. It wasn't very good with large amounts of snow and only OK with medium amounts, but you sure could bury the muffler.

I tried a 7 foot blade for a few years, only difference I would push the snow while backing up. You could pile the snow higher, but like you say that would cause higher drifting. Also one time when I didn't have the chains on I realized with less throttle I could move fairly large amounts of snow and not work the tractor so hard.

But the best is the 6 foot blower that I use now. I have small snowbanks and with little effort for the tractor, I can blow a good distance to either side of the driveway, drifts or not.

I almost changed my muffler too. I hit a stump when I was backing up, it took the muffler off, bent the exhaust pipe in half and broke the manifold. Well I guess you could say I changed it, but I put it back where it was underneath.

We had our first snow the other day, only 6". We usually let the the first snow pack down, it makes it easier to plow once there's a base. Besides there will be lots more snow to plow before winter is over, at least here in northern ontario.

HAPPY TRACTORING!

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Mark Hendershot

11-29-2001 14:43:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to eno, 11-29-2001 13:33:04  
Well I got it all gone now!! I have been plowing in first and second haft throtle it dose seem to work better. UPS has to come to my house every day to pick up packages from us and they are to lazy to put on chains (don't blame em) so if I don't I will haft to carry them about 500ft. and some times we ship several hundred pounds!! My blade is 6 ft and I was thinking of putting something on it that would slip snow better! My blade is all rusty and some times when on a angle it dose not go to the side as well as I wish it would. My drive is gravel and I wish it would get into the 20s for a while and freez it so I could get a base started that way I won't mess it up! But in the spring if I keep all the snow off during the winter the drive dosen't blow out when it thaws. The sun drys it out fast every body elses gets muddy and they haft to fix it. Maybe the work I do in the winter is more then fixing it but I hate MUD!! I have a walk behind self propeled 12 hp blower and it takes just as long but I am a lot more burnt out when done. I am still trying to figure how to do it best and have lots of room for 4 more months of snow that will come. The second time I found pulling and pushing worked better in defferent places and plowing down hill works best with out my chains that I'm waiting for. It is a bummer I haft to go all the down the drive cause my 18in. wide tires won't let me back up! BUT I also found with the fat tires I can go into and up on 3-4ft. high piles and drive over them and with the one I used to use (Jims) his skinny tires would dig in and sink and I would get stuck. I hope I can have the best of both worlds with chains on!! Mark H. PS I would love to have a blower on the tractor! Maybe next year I was lucky my wife said get the tractor and I don't want to push my luck with more right now!!

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eno

11-30-2001 10:42:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 11-29-2001 14:43:19  
It took a while for me to get off the gas and let the machine work, without hopping all over the place, digging ruts and spinning wheels. I found I don't break as many things now, which reminds me to remind you to tie up all the loose ends on your new chains. As loose ends and spinning wheels equals cracked knuckles if you drive with one hand on the fender that is. ;-)
Well, you know if you clean some of the rust off that blade and give it a couple coats of good paint you will get the slippery surface you were talking about. And if you still want more traction you can add weight by loading the tires.

There's no doubt that keeping your driveway clear improves the quality of it. All that moisture is not sucked into the ground and then run over several times a day by you and the UPS truck. That's a recipe for ruts and mud.

I use to make a skating rink on the lake with my walk-behind blower, but I'd wear my skates. All you had to do was hold on and entertain the neighbors.

Oh....if you want to see my TO35 deluxe, it's on about page 3 of the Fergie photo gallery. It's listed under my real name Ian Morrison, eno is my nom du plume.

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Mark Hendershot

11-30-2001 13:12:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to eno, 11-30-2001 10:42:41  
That is a nice looking Tractor you have on page 3, wish I had your Bucket Loader!! Is it on a barge? If not sure is close to the water!!! I got a special set of Chain Tightners coming they have a plate with 6 or so chains and springs going out to the tire chain. I hope they work good I paid 45.00 for them. It seems the bungies allways snap and the fenders get messed up. This new set should take care of that. Mark H.

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Tyler

12-01-2001 05:31:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 11-30-2001 13:12:39  
Five Hundred feet of driveway and you're plowing it with a back blade? You ever consider a front mounted plow? It will sure make your life a lot easier and your neck won't be cramped up either. I've got about 350' of driveway here in the western N.Y. snowbelt and started looking for a front mounted plow as soon as I purchased my to30 and look on it as a very good investment.

Tyler

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Mark Hendershot

12-01-2001 07:08:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Tyler, 12-01-2001 05:31:27  
Had a message all typed and the power went out! It been blowing 20-38 MPH all night and I bet when it gets light out I am going to have drifts the Ferguson won't move with a blade on either end!! I probley will haft to use the Blower this time, and clean up with the tractor! I have never seen a front mount blade before dose it have angle, tilt and lift? How dose it steer when plowing? When I get a big load behind me I hit the turning brakes and pull it off to the side of the drive (when it is deep) other wise I just angle the blade and drop it and watch the front wheel to make sure I am on the drive where I want to be and at the end I go on to the road and let the county deal with it. I give the plow guys Fudge during Christmas time and they never plow in my drive when they go by. After I plow the drive I go back and cut it further off so I have room for more snow during the year. If I get the piles high it will drift higher so I haft keep them down! It allways blows around here in the winter and you haft to be ready for drifting snow and plan ahead for it. Can you send me a picture of you plow? I would like to see it. Thanks, Mark H.

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Tyler

12-01-2001 16:19:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 12-01-2001 07:08:27  
Geeze, Mark! Snow and 30mph winds, where are you from? It's a balmy 44 deg. here in WN.Y. I wish I had the ability to send you a picture of my snow plow over the net....I'm not that advanced, I'm afraid, so I'll try and describe it to you. My plow set-up has a frame, two steel rails that attatch underneath the tractor and running the full length. In the rear it attatches to the four bolts that are for installing a drawbar.In the front, a bracket is bolted on either the front of the engine or the rear part of the front end, I'm not sure without looking. Plow assembley (angle) and plow attatch by two pins to the frame. I don't have power angle with my set-up but I think it can be done. A steel cable runs from the plow, under the frame and back to a pulley on the back of the frame and then is attatched to the drawbar. Raising the drawbar pulls the cable and raises the plow. Very simple. These were made for Ford 2,8,9n's and probably Fergusons too. Mine came off a 2n and wasn't much of a problem to install on my to30. Hope I explained this clearly.

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Sean

12-03-2001 19:05:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Tyler, 12-01-2001 16:19:11  
Hey Tyler>>>>> HELP !!!!! !

It sounds like you have the front blade that I am trying to buy. Before I do I need to figure out how it mounts. Sounds like the same cable/pulley system and the same bracket hook up. I am trying to put it on a TO20. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.



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Frank Biscardi

12-01-2001 14:22:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 12-01-2001 07:08:27  
Here near Charlottesville,Virginia it was 70 degrees today. I had to mow the grass again because it started to grow again. I think it is because I cut and split 5 loads of wood. If I put the blade on the tractor it will probably get hot enough to sow corn and put out the tomatoes!

Frank



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Mark Hendershot

12-01-2001 16:26:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Frank Biscardi, 12-01-2001 14:22:36  
Now that makes me feel bad. Our 14 inches total we got turned to Very Wet snow!! Glad I was taking it off as it came (2-days worth)down!! Today it warmed up and it was HARD to move it WET with out chains (I get them Monday)and took a long time but now you can see the gravel again till Sunday night when it is going to snow again! We need it we have had a drought for 3-years and maybe this will be a 4-6 ft snow winter and my 10 acre lake will top off! Now it is about 1/2 acre in size! You enjoy the sun now, I will see it about 4 months from now! Mark H.

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Mark Hendershot

12-01-2001 17:11:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 12-01-2001 16:26:17  
Since you asked! I live 12 miles outside of a small town call Okanogan pop. 2,385 one blinking light and at 5:00pm every thing closes and the place looks deserted!! It is in Eastern Washington 40 miles from Canada. I live on 40 arces at the 2,800ft. level. In the middle of nowhere! But I like it! The towns nick name is Sunny Okanogan but that is only 8 months out the year!! Dosen't it snow back east anymore?? It used to! Mark H.

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Mark Hendershot

12-01-2001 17:06:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 12-01-2001 16:26:17  
Since you asked! I live 12 miles outside of a small town call Okanogan pop. 2,385 one blinking light and at 5:00pm every thing closes and the place looks deserted!! It is in Eastern Washington 40 miles from Canada. I live on 40 arces at the 2,800ft. level. In the middle of nowhere! But I like it! The towns nick name is Sunny Okanogan but that is only 8 months out the year!! Dosen't it snow back east anymore?? It used to! Mark H.

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Mark Hendershot

12-01-2001 17:07:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 12-01-2001 16:26:17  
Since you asked! I live 12 miles outside of a small town call Okanogan pop. 2,385 one blinking light and at 5:00pm every thing closes and the place looks deserted!! It is in Eastern Washington 40 miles from Canada. I live on 40 arces at the 2,800ft. level. In the middle of nowhere! But I like it! The towns nick name is Sunny Okanogan but that is only 8 months out the year!! Dosen't it snow back east anymore?? It used to! Mark H.

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Frank Biscardi

12-02-2001 05:18:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing SNOW and the Muffler Problem! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 12-01-2001 17:07:04  
Mark,

I am only 40, but remember much colder winters and lots more snow. I think the weather is changing. I'm no enviromental activist, but I think global warming is probably real.I am not a famer, but have friends who are. The hotter drier weather is a problem here with ponds drying up, and a second cutting of hay a less frequent thing.

So, it is not all good that is 70 degreesin December.

Frank

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