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Scott

09-29-1999 17:20:55




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Have a to30 that the lift does not stay up. Just falls when tractor is shut off, or when I engage the clutch the lift falls. Have done the adjustments and changed the fluid. My question is has anyone done a rebuild of the pump? Just how involved(difficult) is this? Can someone like myself who is kinda handy with tools ( I can pick-up a screwdriver and engage it without loosing an eye)or should this be take to a shop to have done? Thanks in advance for all your advice!

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Aaron

01-18-2000 02:19:56




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 Re: Lift in reply to Scott, 09-29-1999 17:20:55  
I had the same problem with my '52 TEA-20. Before spending the time and hassle of looking of seals and such, look for sluge in the bottom of the transmission case, since that is were the valves are they are easily clogged. I got some Lubie's Sump Cleaner from Zep Manufactures(1-800-313-8439). You drain the rear end, pour in the lubie's doluted with water, run the pump for about five min. making sure to rasie and lower it a couple of times to work it all through. Then drain it a flush it with water agian while it is running and with taking it through it's paces. Drain and rinse again if nessary. Refill with oil and try it out. Give it a chance to get the oil worked back into the valves and cylinder. The purpose of the Lubie's is to break down the old oil and oil partical clumps. That is why it is nessary to flush it out after wards otherwise it will eat the new oil too. Good luck.

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ZANE

10-02-1999 06:08:44




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 Re: Lift in reply to Scott, 09-29-1999 17:20:55  
There is usually no reason to rebuild the pump. It is the most trouble free component of the hydraulic lift on the TO Ferguson.
The trouble is more than likely with some other component. The Ford N tracotrs have the same lift and I will give you my trouble shoot for them.

The 9N lift has no position control.To maintain the lift at a given position the hand must constantly be on the control lever to continually re adjust.

The most common places to leak on the lift is the piston rings and the pressure relief valve.
In order to determine where the lift is leaking you should remove the right hand inspection plate that holds the dip stick for the lift oil.If oil runs out when this cover is removed it has too much oil in it and letting it run out is ok.

Start the tractor with a load on the lift arms such as a rotary cutter etc. raise the lift and observe inside the lift to see where the oil is leaking down.If the piston rings are leaking their will be a pretty good stream of oil coming out the end of the ram cylinder. If just a few drops this is ok.

Observe the oil in the resorvoir and if you see the oil swirling around the relief valve is probably leaking.It is the gadget that is screwed into the back of the hydralic pump just under the pto shaft.It will be under the oil and feels something like a spark plug.

If before starting the tractor you will put your hand into the oil and locate the relief valve you can reach in and put one finger over the end of the relief valve and determine if it is leaking after the tractor has again been started. DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF PUTING A FINGER IN THE PUMP MECHANISM!!!!

If however you don't see a signifacant leak from the top you can assume that the relief valve is leaking and simply replace it with a new one and thereby prvent the possible loss of a finger or two.

I;ve never tried itm,but I�ve read that you can drain enough oil from the lift reservoir to uncover the relief valve and see if it is leaking instead of using the obviously dangerous finger feel thing I described.


There could also be a blown gasket somewhere in the upper portion of the lift but if so you will see a lot of oil coming down from the top and then it�s just a case of taking the cover off and finding the culprit.

Be sure to release the control rods from the control valve T on the pump before trying to remove the lift cover. To fail to do so will result in a broken lift control valve stem.
Zane in Alabama.

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Ray

09-29-1999 20:58:43




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 Re: Lift in reply to Scott, 09-29-1999 17:20:55  
Maybe try removing the side panel with the oil dip stick in it...drain some oil first or just lose it. Might not be a pump problem. Look for churning oil in the bottom around the pump. There is a pipe carrying pressure to the top cover from the pump, maybe a leak at one end or the other. The work cylinder is bolted to the underside of the top cover, maybe a leak there. You might see oil squirting past piston rings in the work cylinder.

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