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PTO shaft removal....what am I missing??!!

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Jim

09-10-2001 05:57:56




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Okay, so I needed to replace the PTO oil seal on my TO30, and the directions in my IT manual said it can be done after removing the retainer housing and withdrawing the shaft. Sounded simple enough. I got the retainer off easily. When I tried to pull the shaft out, it moved about an inch or so, then stopped. I ran a small rod through the hole in the end of the shaft to get some leverage, then gave a heave. It moved another inch or so, then stopped again; wouldn't go forward or backward. I tried it with the PTO lever engaged, and disengaged. I tried it with the transmission in neutral and in gear (reverse and all 4 forward gears). Jacked it up and tried it while turning the wheels to maybe get the gears turning. Wouldn't budge in either direction. Since the oil seal's in the retainer, I can go ahead and change that. I gave up on trying to change the bearing at this point. I finally took a small sledgehammer and lightly tapped the PTO shaft back into place. I'm sure that's probably not how it's supposed to be done, but I really didn't see much other choice. Hope I didn't do any damage, but I won't know until I put the old boy back in service. So what's the story? I'm 48 years old, but I'm not that weak and decrepit yet. Is the PTO shaft supposed to pull right out, or do you have to use some kind of gear puller on it? Or is there something wrong with it that it's binding? While I'm at it, when I removed the retainer, I saw some chips around the outer edge of where the seal and bearing slide into the housing. I don't know if it's old damage, or something that happened recently, and maybe contributed to the oil leak. Should the retainer be replaced or will it be OK with a few chips missing along the edges? Sorry 'bout the length of this, but I need HELP!!! Thanks.

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rod

09-10-2001 16:57:54




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 Re: PTO shaft removal....what am I missing??!! in reply to Jim , 09-10-2001 05:57:56  
It could be twisted the shaft that is. If a bushhog or similar PTO implement is used the shaft can twist. I have heard of Ford shafts having to be cut out with a sawzall.
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Ray,IN

09-10-2001 23:29:07




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 Re: Re: PTO shaft removal....what am I missing??!! in reply to rod, 09-10-2001 16:57:54  
I agree, a twisted shaft is rather common when heavy brushhogging is done. You've already drained the oil, so the next step is to remove the side covers,top cover, and inspect the shaft splines between the pump and transmission. Read your repair manual carefully and disconnect the linkage before attempting top cover removal. With luck you may be able to use a mechanics inspection mirror thru the side openings and look at the shaft well enough to determine any shaft damage before removing top cover. You could be lucky and just have a worn notch at the pump front bearing that needs smoothing. Back before sawzalls, I had to torch a shaft in two, then grind/file it smooth for removal. Avoid that by any means! I spent about 2 days on it.

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