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John

07-09-2001 19:14:24




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I have an old 1948 TO 20 I got a few months ago. It burns and uses no oil at this time. As far as I know it has had nondetergent oil in it all the time. My question is would it hurt to change it over to detergent oil? Would it cause it to start knocking and using oil? The oil now seams to get dirty real fast. It is black only after about 8 hours or so.




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Wes Dillard

07-12-2001 09:42:33




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 Re: OILS in reply to John, 07-09-2001 19:14:24  
I have seen many opinions on both sides of this issue. My own experience with using detergent oil was not good. I have had an early 50's tea-20 for 9 years. It was in good shape when I got it with only a very slight oil leak. A year or so after I bought it, I changed over to a 10W-30 detergent oil. The very next time the engine got warmed up real good, the oil leak went from slight to major. Changed back to a non-detergent 30W oil and leak went back to slight. I'm not sure if the oil leak was agravated by the detergent or lower viscosity but I have stuck with the 30W non-detergent and have had no further problems.

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Ray,IN

07-11-2001 20:24:53




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 Re: OILS in reply to John, 07-09-2001 19:14:24  
Multi-weight/detergent oils should not be used in these old engines. The owners manual suggests 20W in winter(10W subzero),30W in summer. The years of accumulated sludge in your engine will cause lots of problems if you run detergent oil,besides it will also slowly destroy the original seals,just change the filter each oil change. Some differ with these ideas, but my '53 TO30 is running strong and never been apart yet. The old H.Ferguson mechanic who prepped it at the dealers told me this about the oils.

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David, MI

07-10-2001 10:09:23




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 Re: OILS in reply to John, 07-09-2001 19:14:24  
John: This discussion surfaces from time to time. You may want to search the achives from this forum. Here is what I have taken from various discussions: 1) Use the detergent oils as they do a better job than non-detergent oils; 2) there are many opinions about straight weight vs multi-viscosity oils. The owners manual suggests either depending on climate/weather conditions. I think you have to factor engine wear and oil consumption into this as well. These engines are not designed to run on 5W30 oil. In the summer time some may run best on a 20W50 or a straight 50 for that matter; 3) Stay clear of synthetic or semi-synthetic oils.

As far as the oil getting dirty quickly, have you been changing the filter (in the sump)? Have any additives containing molybdenum sulfide been used--these cause the oil to become black and can take a few oil changes to clean up? If not, you may want to use a crankcase flush before your next oil change. Hope this is helpul. Good luck, David, MI

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