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TO-20 Water in Oil

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DarrylS

05-21-2001 19:55:54




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I just purchased a '50 TO-20 2 weeks ago to work on my 5 acres. It starts easy and appeared to run fine. I checked the oil and water after 1 week and the water was down, so I added a 2 liter Coke bottle full. The oil didn't appear milky. I just checked the oil and it was way up and milky. Water wise, it took about the same amount again. My oil pressure line has been cut and sealed so I don't know about my oil pressure. I did a compression test and it was 90,90,97 and 85. My question is, can I drain the oil and antifreeze. Replace the oil and put some stop leak in the radiator and run it to see it that works or will that hurt it further? The next thing, would be to pull the head, have it checked for cracks and milled. It doesn't smoke when starting or running so water is not getting to the combustion chamber. Any suggestions will be helpful.

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Darryl

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Neal(IN)

05-22-2001 06:25:03




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 Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to DarrylS, 05-21-2001 19:55:54  
Darryl

From what you describe it sounds to me like water is leaking by the seal between one or more of the sleeves and the block. I had a reverse situation where there was no water in the oil but it smoked a lot (steam I suspect) and it turned out to be a cracked head. I have no idea about the effects of any type of stop leak chemical but I would certainly get that water out of the pan.

Neal

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talf

05-22-2001 05:51:31




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 Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to DarrylS, 05-21-2001 19:55:54  
Try fiting a new head gasket! There is no point in filling the radiator full of stop leak if it isnt physically leaking from the radiator. Does it leave a wet patch after being stood? Have a look at the radiator to see if you can see a leak and check all the water pipes.



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DarrylS

05-22-2001 07:28:05




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 Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to talf, 05-22-2001 05:51:31  
I haven't noticed water spots but I have oil spots. I filled the radiator last night and I'm going to check it when I get home to see if its down. After reading older post and messing with Austin-Healey Sprites and MG Midgets, it appears to be a head gasket. I guess the safest thing to do is to pull the head, make sure it's flat and put it back on. If I do this will I need to replace any other gaskets or is the head gasket all I need. Also where is a good spot to put a temp. gauge? I have some old Smith water temp. gauges with bulbs on the end.

Thanks for the help. These motors are new to me.

Darryl

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Duner Wi

05-22-2001 09:39:24




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 Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to DarrylS, 05-22-2001 07:28:05  
On my TO 20 I installed a bulb type gauge right below the upper rad. hose on the left side. There is a plug there and I used a piece of copper tubing over the bulb so it would seal. With out the copper tubing the bulb would not seal. Correct length is important. Has been working for over 20 years.
When my head was cracked I lost water out the overflow. I have since installed a recovery system along with a good head.

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Clint

05-22-2001 10:41:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to Duner Wi, 05-22-2001 09:39:24  
Gotta ask where did you find a recovery system at I am needing one for my TO-20 as well



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Duner Wi

05-23-2001 17:27:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to Clint, 05-22-2001 10:41:23  
I made the recovery system out of a empty 1 qt. oil container. Ran a plastic line from the rad. overflow to the oil container. Punched 2 holes in cap , one for plastic hose and a small one for vent. I have a # 51 12 volt battery that is rather slim so the catch tank fits between the battery and gas tank. I have since found a nice round bottle from a Volvo that looks like it would work real nice. You need a Rad cap that works with a recovery system.

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Boogity

05-22-2001 18:49:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to Clint, 05-22-2001 10:41:23  
Would you please give a little more info. on how you used the copper tube to fit the water temp. sending unit into the tapped hole just below the upper radiator hose? I've been thinking about doing something loke that myself.



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Duner Wi

05-23-2001 17:33:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to Boogity, 05-22-2001 18:49:33  
Sorry it was so many years ago all I can remember is the copper tubing slipped over the bulb to hold the bulb next to the bulb nut and the other end seated in the tapped hole. It is possible I flared one end . It never leaks and I have had it apart a time or two.



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Neal(IN)

05-23-2001 05:01:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to Boogity, 05-22-2001 18:49:33  
Tisco makes a water temp gauge that fits the 20 with no modifications. The line that goes between the gauge and water neck comes in two lengths. If you get one get the long one.

Neal



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Boogity

05-22-2001 18:56:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Water in Oil in reply to Boogity, 05-22-2001 18:49:33  
Sorry - My last comment was neant for Duner WI



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