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TO-30 Questions

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RockyMO

05-21-2008 18:21:57




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Hi all, I spent the last few days plowing discing and planting about 5 acres of soybeans with the TO-30. the steering has become extremely stiff to turn if not impossible. The problem appears to be in the box so I suspect the bearings have failed in the box. Here is the first question, does the box need to be disassembled for just the upper bearing replacement or can it be done with the box in place? The tractor has also taken a bad habit of smoking and that is my starting point. I will be tearing the engine apart in a couple weeks and if the block is ok (let's keep our fingers crossed) as it should be since I am not loosing antifreeze the engine will be rebuilt. While I am at it I will go ahead and install a new pivot bushing in the axle. That brings up the next question, where is the best place to buy parts? I know they are sold here but is that truly teh best source or are there better places for different parts ie, here for some other places for different pieces etc.. Thanks in advance,

Rocky in MO

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John (UK)

05-23-2008 06:30:21




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 Re: TO-30 Questions in reply to RockyMO, 05-21-2008 18:21:57  
The steering going stiff is very often the top bearing is rusted or the adjustment has tightened up, you should also check the king pins for being tight as well, the bottom bearing in the box rarely gives trouble as it is in oil all the time but the top one gets forgotten and is never lubed...John



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gshadel

05-22-2008 13:20:01




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 Re: TO-30 Questions in reply to RockyMO, 05-21-2008 18:21:57  
Rocky.... Awesome that you are using your TO for what is was intended, plowing, discing and planting several acres. I love to hear stories about Fergy's WORKING. Parts from here are fine typically. I have bought a lot of parts from here. Had one problem several years back, the folks kept sending me the wrong gas shut-off valve, the part# in there system was WRONG, after 3 tries I gave up, sent them all back and got one at a Ford Dealer for a few extra $$$. I rebuilt my TO from the ground up and got a LOT of parts from here, that was the ONLY problem at all.
But, shop around, especially for rebuild kits, sleeve sets, etc., prices vary widely. I actually got the best deal on a rebuild kit from the Agco dealer because they shipped for free! I have got parts from Walts tractors too, and believe it or not from a local Ford New Holland dealer. They have catalogs and can order nearly all the same stuff that you would get from an Agco/Massey dealer, and a lot of the hitch/hydraulic components are identical to the 9N.
You will actually find a lot of the parts are common across many places as they are all distributed by Tisco or Sparex. So the parts from here, AGCO, or pretty much any other tractor dealer are all the same. Sheet metal is hard to find. Watch Ebay, there are TO's parted out on there all the time.

George

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Jd/Mo

05-22-2008 06:33:31




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 Re: TO-30 Questions in reply to RockyMO, 05-21-2008 18:21:57  
Hi Rocky, I don"t know what parts you need but I"ve had pretty good luck out in Wright city at Dyer Rental. Their a Massey dealer but the parts guy John know a lot about these old tractors. He went out there from the massey dealer in Arnold. If he can"t get what you need he may be able to help you find them. They ain"t cheap, but what is these days. Good luck Jd



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Bob (Aust)

05-22-2008 02:02:24




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 Re: TO-30 Questions in reply to RockyMO, 05-21-2008 18:21:57  
Site search was my friend! :lol:
TO30 Steering Bearings

So, the TO30 must have the same bearings as the TEA20.

John (UK) posted on March 25 2008:

Someone has already asked this earlier today.

The bearing numbers are:-

5BC Bearing/ 4CB inner cone / 6 Bearing Cup.

they are Timken Bearing part numbers....John

I posted same day:

John's Timken numbers are the bearings I bought for my TEA20. A bit difficult to obtain at least in Australia as they are imperial sizes whereas everything here seems to have gone metric. The three bearing components weren't cheap, cost me Aus$63.00 (US$55) excluding taxes and freight.



Bob in Oz

'53 TEA20

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Bob (Aust)

05-22-2008 01:36:56




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 Re: TO-30 Questions in reply to RockyMO, 05-21-2008 18:21:57  
If your TO30 steering box looks like my TEA20 steering:

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I'd be checking the top steering shaft bearing to see if that is the culprit? It does not get lubrication (at least not on the TEA20) and when I restored my Fergy, the top bearing was at least a decade past it's use by date! Indeed, it functioned like a friction lock..... !!

To get you out of trouble, I suggest you remove the steering wheel, shaft cover cap, spring and felt washer and flood oil down the steering shaft (when you take the steering wheel off you can see the top bearing). You may also need to back off the bearing lock nut on top of the steering shaft.
If that frees your steering, you know you need to replace at least one, and possibly both steering shaft bearings. Unless you have tightened up the steering adjusting pins on the side of the steering box, I would be surprised if the problem is inside the steering box.

Bearing replacement is simple - remove that top steering shaft housing (four bolts in the top of the steering box) and replace the bearings.

I can't see the bearings listed in the Sparex catalog but they are a relatively common imperial bearing, cup and cone. I have the bearing part numbers somewhere, I think I sent the numbers to John (UK) - his filing system is better than mine - :lol: or do a search in this forum.

If your steering is different to the TEA20, sorry, can't help you! :o

Bob in Oz

'53 TEA20

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