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TO-30 HELP

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ERIC PELTIER

05-21-2008 14:59:41




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I was installing a new alternator and replacing the old rotted wiring with new that came with the alternator kit. I ran into a big problem though. There is a starter switch bolted to the top of the tranny that the positive cable from the battery conects to and then another cable goes from the other stud on the switch to the starter motor. My major issue is one of the stud came loose from the switch which bascially leaves me with no other option than replacing it. My issue is this site doesnt sell the switch, they only carry the key operated or manual ignition starter switch on the dash but not the gear stick operated one on the top of the tranny. Does anyone know where to purchase one or how to rig it up. I greatly appreciate everyones help.

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ERIC PELTIER

05-22-2008 16:40:46




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
I am convinced that it is the right part and ordered one last night. I am a little confused though as the piture you had showing the original being lifted up as I dont see the button and what I do see is the arm assembly and how it connects viat a clevis pin and cotter pin. On the other replacement switch there is the button but not sure how it will conect to the rocker arm assembly.



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Richard L

05-23-2008 11:10:49




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 Re: TO-30 HELP replace starter switch in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-22-2008 16:40:46  
OK anyone wanting to replace a starter switch on a TO 30 it is very simple. Remove the cables from the 2 upright studs, take out 2 bolts that have 7/16" heads, then grab the 2 bolts that cables were attached to and lift switch out. Put new switch in place install the 2 bolts, then reattach the cables to the switch. You don't have to worry about dropping the link into the clutch housing as you won't get that far involved. Probably about 1/2 hour job if you have to remove as much grease and crap that was on mine. If yours is clean and in no hurry maybe 20 minutes. Richard

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ERIC PELTIER

05-23-2008 14:08:12




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 Re: TO-30 HELP replace starter switch in reply to Richard L, 05-23-2008 11:10:49  
I wanted to thank you for the help. I am waiting on the new switch before I take it apart. As always, I appreciate evveryones help.



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Jeff-oh

05-23-2008 07:43:50




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-22-2008 16:40:46  
The picture of the switch installed on the tractor is from a TE-20 not a TO-20. Thus it is not the same switch. The internal mechinism (levers and rockers) are the same. That picture was to illistrate where to tie the string that was being discussed. The button in your case would be hidden behind the rocker arm support flanges.



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Jeff-oh

05-22-2008 08:16:44




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
third party image

Here is another picture



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Jeff-oh

05-22-2008 08:09:07




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
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Eric

Here is a view of the starter switch being pulled off. You will need to put a string on the action lever to keep it from dropping into the transmission... as shown. It really is no big deal. Once you have the string on the lever, carefully remove the cotter pin retainer, and pull the pin at the rocker arm... careful not to drop the pin into the clutch housing.

See that rocker... it is what pushes the button.

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john[mo]

05-21-2008 21:19:41




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
i think this switch will work off this site
829960M91



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Richard L

05-21-2008 17:27:49




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
Eric click "search this site" left column under Research and Info Then type in "starter switch" search in Ferguson Forum then I think it was # 8 Jeff-Oh has a picture of the linkage and read what he says.



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JD/Mo

05-21-2008 16:41:47




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
Eric I replaced the tranny mounted switch with a standard starter switch from NAPA. I took the old one in and got an exact match, it just sits in the mounting upside down. Works same as the old one. jd



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Bob (Aust)

05-21-2008 15:54:06




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
If you are removing the transmission housing starter switch, make sure you wire up the connecting link. Don't let the link fall down inside the bell housing.



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ERIC PELTIER

05-21-2008 17:05:44




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to Bob (Aust), 05-21-2008 15:54:06  
I am not sure what you are refering to a connecting link as I have not took it apart yet and have never done one of these before. I ould appreciate anyones help with input that has done one before.



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Jeff-oh

05-22-2008 08:21:10




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 17:05:44  
See the pictures above. Post again if you need more help.

Jeff



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Richard L

05-21-2008 15:14:17




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 14:59:41  
Eric, this site has the switch type in 181679M1 and the switch will come up.



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ERIC PELTIER

05-21-2008 15:29:22




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to Richard L, 05-21-2008 15:14:17  
That is a manual switch (no key) for the dashboard. not the starter switch on top of the tranny. Sparex has a online catalog showing some parts which clearly show a similar one only that specific one is for a TEA-20. This is the switch that is activated by the gear shift.



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Jeff-oh

05-22-2008 08:19:47




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 15:29:22  
The TEA and TO-20 were different. Yes that Sparex switch is for the TE-20 and TEA-20 tractors. The Push button id for the TO-20's (in the bell housing)



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ERIC PELTIER

05-21-2008 15:49:35




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 15:29:22  
After reviewing it on other sites that might be the right switch, guess I will have to take it apart to find out for sure. Thank you.



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Richard L

05-21-2008 15:49:06




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 Re: TO-30 HELP in reply to ERIC PELTIER, 05-21-2008 15:29:22  
Eric if you was looking at #11 on Sparex then those other 2 I mentioned and this # 11 are all the same they are all the same number and that is what the parts book lists.



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