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TO-20 Lift Problems

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Mike Greene

03-26-2008 13:23:30




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Hello all, I recently purchaced a 1950 TO-20.After changing the pto seal and installing new fluid i attached it to a 16 blade disc yesterday and the problems began. First the system is slow and after warming you have to rev the engine almost wide open to raise the lift.I could deal with the speed but the hotter it gets the worse it leaks down. If i stop and mash the clutch to change gears the lift will leak down. Does anyone have any ideas on this problem or a solution? thanks for your help.

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John(UK)

03-28-2008 07:16:22




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 Re: TO-20 Lift Problems in reply to Mike Greene, 03-26-2008 13:23:30  
Do the hydraulics go up smoothly or jerkily? if they jerk there is a gasket or "O" ring blown on the side chambers. If it goes up smoothly but slowly, check of there is a lot of play in the spring at the back of the seat, with an implement mounted and in the raised position you should just be able to turn the spring, if it is slack it will alter the Pump linkage and could cause it to rise slowly. If you would like info on what to look for and how to check it, email me and I will send you the info you need.....John

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Jerry/MT

03-26-2008 15:30:22




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 Re: TO-20 Lift Problems in reply to Mike Greene, 03-26-2008 13:23:30  
Most leak down situations are caused by leakage of the lift cylinders seals. The other leak path is the gasket or O-ring on the supply pipe to the lift cover that"s located in the upper front right hand corner of the hydraulic compartment.

To check the lift cylinder, put an implement on the hitch, remove the access plate on the right hand side, start the engine and engage the pump/pto. UNDER NO CIRCUMSATNCES PLACE YOU HANDS IN THE HYDRAULIC COMPARTMENT WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING. Move the lift lever to the full up position and look up toward the top of the compartment and look for leakage from the cylinder. Any more than a few drops is a leak. The seals can be worn, the cylinder cracked or scored, etc.

Another posibility is a stuck open relief valve. Look down near the base of the pump. If there noise and a a lot of turbulence, there may be some debris caught in the relief valve holding it open.

To check the supply pipe to the lift cover, use a flashlight and a mirror to look in the upper right front corner for leakage at the top of the verticle supply pipe. John(UK) recommends you do this check from the left side access cover and you won"t need the mirror.

Leaky cylinders require the lift cover be removed as does the leaking supply pipe. The relief valve can be removed from the access port.

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Mike Greene

03-27-2008 11:19:39




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 Re: TO-20 Lift Problems in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-26-2008 15:30:22  
Thanks for the reply. I have just a few more questions. On the leaking lift cylinder seals is that where it mounts to the cover or are you talking about the piston and rings.On the newwer furgesons you have to remove a roller in the lift control arm to remove the lift top, does this have something similiar or will the top lift straight off. Thanks for all the help



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