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front axle pivot bushing

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Mark from the f

03-12-2008 13:19:22




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On a TO35, does the axle pivot bushing supposed to be the total length of the hole it is pressed into?
My pivot pin is wore real bad in one spot--when I took a look at the bushing, it is only about 3/4 of an inch long. -leaving ALOT of the pivot pin unsupported. Am I making sense?
The bushing is pressed in from the back, and less than an inch long. Should the bushing be as long as the hole (approx. 2" or so)?
Or is this a 2 part bushing and front portion totally missing.?
Looking to order both parts.
Many thanks, Mark

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Mark from the fort

03-13-2008 07:30:17




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Mark from the fort, 03-12-2008 13:19:22  
Thanks guys.
The tractor is 1955 green and grey.-that doesnt mean that the bushing hasnt been changed before thought. The was no flange from the backside.-although pressed in from the back side.
I had considered this type of bushing alright if it was to be paired with another pressed in from the front.
I was concerned that the front part of the axel was left NOT-bushed for alignment purposes. -and that adding another short bushing in the front would REALLY screw things up and damage radius rods or other components in the steering.
So "full length" support in the axel will be correct. Many thanks, Mark

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John (UK)

03-13-2008 11:52:41




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Mark from the fort, 03-13-2008 07:30:17  
The axle beam should just pivot across the tractor on the pin, it also prevents the wheels from tucking under the tractor due to the axle twisting around the pin back-wards, any straight thrust or load at the wheels is taken on the Radius rods. So fitting full width bushes is ok, it will definitely give it more support.The Radius rods should not be subjected to any twisting of the axle beam or they will bend up-wards in the middle, this will alter the castor angle and make it hard to steer and the wheels will "wobble" violently if you try to travel at speed..John

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John (UK)

03-12-2008 14:47:42




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Mark from the fort, 03-12-2008 13:19:22  
I should also have said fit a new Axle pivot Pin too and the reason they don't fit a grease nipple is because the fan would pull grit into the pin and wear it out even faster....John



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lonestarjeff

03-13-2008 08:42:38




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to John (UK), 03-12-2008 14:47:42  
John....I can't tell you how glad I was when I opened this forum & saw you posting again. All I heard was you & your wife had been ill back before the holidays.....it's been months! I hope you both are on the mend again.

I don't post that often on this board, but I lurk often, & especially read your posts & replies. There are a handful of guys, like you, across these forums that have depth of knowledge & the ability to convey it to rest of us in a kind way.

Sorry to ramble on, but I missed ya! Welcome back.

Jeff

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John (UK)

03-13-2008 08:53:07




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to lonestarjeff, 03-13-2008 08:42:38  
Thank you for rambling, it is much appreciated. It did seem a long time to me as well but I just did not have the inclination to do a lot, I was replying to anyone who emailed me direct and that was enough..... John
ps you can lurk as much as you like, you are very welcome to do just that.



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Dennis(Ohio)

03-13-2008 05:10:35




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to John (UK), 03-12-2008 14:47:42  
Reading this brings up a question: when reassembling could you use a dry lubricant, such as graphite?



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John (UK)

03-13-2008 07:11:19




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Dennis(Ohio), 03-13-2008 05:10:35  
Indeed you can use a dry lubricant such as graphite, in fact the factory did recommend this but not many do that, I have mentioned this many times before but no-one has ever said they have tried it....John



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John (UK)

03-12-2008 14:42:13




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Mark from the fort, 03-12-2008 13:19:22  
They have used two different types of Bushes in these axles beams, depending on the age of the tractor, 1 was Sparex S42621 or MF 180344M1 1-7/16"ID x 1.91" OD x 1.50" long
Later type was S40107 or MF 182850M1 1-7/16"ID x 2.06" OD x .82" long
If you yours is the later type which is flanged, normally the flange goes to the back, but they did suggest for heavy duty work (loaders) that you fit 2 of the flanged bush. Yours was fitted correctly and is the correct type, fit two if you are concerned....John

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Richard L

03-12-2008 14:16:14




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Mark from the fort, 03-12-2008 13:19:22  
Mark this site is showing a axle bushing 1-15/16 OD
1-25/32 ID 1-1/2" long $6.90.



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Fred T. Hart Jr.

03-12-2008 13:57:25




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Mark from the fort, 03-12-2008 13:19:22  
I have replaced this bushing on my TO-35, but its been a long time ago. I believe I got two bushings and cut one off if it was too long, just do not remember. I would think that the bushing needs to completely bush the axle.

Also repair or replace the pivot pin while you have it apart.

I know someone much smarter than me knows the reason why Ferguson did not install a grease fiting on this wear point.

My tractor has one on brake pedal, but not one on this major wear point.

good luck,

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Bob (Aust)

03-12-2008 13:56:33




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 Re: front axle pivot bushing in reply to Mark from the fort, 03-12-2008 13:19:22  
TO and TEA are probably the same?
If so, it is a one piece bush, length equal to thickness of axle beam - around 2 inches.



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