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What is a Fergy made of???

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Don Hooks*

03-05-2008 13:21:11




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I have wondered what certain parts of my TO 30 are made of and will mine this forum for answers. I will list parts below and what they appear to be. Many are just identified as "cast iron" but I would like to know the type (gray, ductile, malleable, etc.) if anyone knows. Also, some I have listed as cast iron may be cast steel or even forged steel. I have excluded the internals and obvious things like wheel dishes, seat, etc. Oh, this form doesn't allow tabs or columns so everything is jammed up.

engine block and head cast iron
front axle bolster formed steel
front axle cast iron
front spindles - outer cast iron
front spindles - inner steel
front hubs cast iron
radius rods ends cast iron " " tubes welded steel transmission case cast iron
differential case cast iron
axle trumpets cast iron
foot pegs forged steel
foot peg/radius rod base cast iron
transmission shifter cover steel
PTO and dipstick covers aluminum
hydraulic lift cover cast iron
pedals forged steel
dash and underdash steel
steering box and column aluminum
hydraulic quadrant casting aluminum
hydraulic pump base cast iron
three point upper lift arms cast iron
leveling link forks cast iron
rear axle bearing retainers cast iron

Any corrections or additions are welcome.

Don

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Dan S (NY)

03-06-2008 09:13:49




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Don Hooks*, 03-05-2008 13:21:11  

PartMaterial
engine block and headcast iron
front axle bolster formed steel
front axle cast iron
front spindles - outer cast iron
front spindles - inner steel
front hubs cast iron
radius rods ends cast iron
" " tubes welded steel
transmission case cast iron
differential case cast iron
axle trumpets cast iron
foot pegs forged steel
foot peg/radius rod base cast iron
transmission shifter cover steel
PTO and dipstick covers aluminum
hydraulic lift cover cast iron
pedals forged steel
dash and underdash steel
steering box and column aluminum
hydraulic quadrant casting aluminum
hydraulic pump base cast iron
three point upper lift arms cast iron
leveling link forks cast iron
rear axle bearing retainers cast iron

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Don Hooks*

03-06-2008 12:04:10




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Dan S (NY), 03-06-2008 09:13:49  
Ok, tell me how you did that. Was it cut-and-paste?



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Dan S (NY)

03-07-2008 05:42:00




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Don Hooks*, 03-06-2008 12:04:10  
I copied your data to a text editor and added HTML tags to turn it into a Table, then cut/pasted the table into a new message.



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Don Hooks*

03-07-2008 09:49:31




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Dan S (NY), 03-07-2008 05:42:00  
Thanks! I enjoy being introduced to tools I didn't know existed.



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Jerry/MT

03-05-2008 15:09:40




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Don Hooks*, 03-05-2008 13:21:11  
There is a qualitative method of determining material called "spark testing" where you use a grinder and look at the color and shape of the spark pattern and can idenify the type of ferrous material it is made out of. Years ago, when I worked in a steel mill, they used this method to quickly make sure they had the correct chemistry in the steel before they rolled the finished or semi-finished product. This method was not used where critical metalurgical properties were required. In that case, samples were chemically analyzed. Anyway, you might be able to find some info on this method and use it to further ID the ferrous materials on your Ferguson.

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Irv ( Ia)

03-06-2008 18:38:54




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-05-2008 15:09:40  
Jerry, I've used that method for years. It's hard to describe in print, but mostly, cast iron throws small reddish short sparks when ground and cast steel is more yellow in color and kind of chicken footed in shape. Not very scientific, but it works for me.
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Jerry/MT

03-06-2008 20:19:24




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Irv ( Ia), 03-06-2008 18:38:54  
Irv I know what you mean. When I worked in the steel mills, they trained people to do that kind of testing and they had color photographs of the various spark paterns and colors. These people were really good at determining steel chemistry by this process but as I said, it was not used on anything where metalurgical properties were critical.



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Jeff-oh

03-05-2008 14:15:39




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Don Hooks*, 03-05-2008 13:21:11  
Any particular reason?

FYI the TE Transmission case is aluminum.

Jeff



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Don Hooks*

03-06-2008 08:33:03




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Jeff-oh, 03-05-2008 14:15:39  
Jeff,
Purpose? -- Some curiosity, some knowledge about what sort of stress parts can take. I was looking at my front axle and wondered if the camber was right. If there is too much camber and it is cast iron I would make a choice between ignoring it or replacing it. If it was forged steel I might consider bending it. That was when I realized that, except for a few parts, I really don't know what the metallurgy is and thus I don't know what repair options are available to me.

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Bill Brox

03-05-2008 15:58:22




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Jeff-oh, 03-05-2008 14:15:39  
Actually, the transmission on a TE/TEx 20 was made of something Ferguson called "Electron". Mostly aluminum I assume, but who knows the rest.

Maybe something used in Aero engines, since Standard Motor Company which made the TE 20 series had made Aero engines during WW2.
Just a thought from me.

Bill



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Jeff-oh

03-06-2008 05:36:09




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Bill Brox, 03-05-2008 15:58:22  
Hmmmm... I am conducting a metalurgical analysis currently... If I shaved a little piece off, I wonder if I can get the guys in the lab to put it in the laser spectrometer?

That'll give us the chemical make up.



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Bill Brox

03-06-2008 07:10:09




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 Re: What is a Fergy made of??? in reply to Jeff-oh, 03-06-2008 05:36:09  
Hi Jeff,

That would be very interesting. VERY interesting.

Can you do that ?


Bill



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